[SPOILERS] Woden and ljubljana like boats

[Woden]

Also, looks what's after Natural History...
   

Too bad Conservation and Suffrage weren't reversed. Then I would chop the hell out of my cities right now. I think the play will be to hit Mobilization and then come back for Conservation. I did start a few sewers in my offshore cities for housing and to located the civic for the New Deal policy, so I think I can get the civic done pretty quick. I can chop a few more sewers out. 

Who knows, maybe Fascism is after Suffrage but most likely behind Ideology since it would be the last tech in that row that I research and is the one leading to 2 unknown civics.

[ljubljana]

Hmm, do any other civics lead to 2 unknown civics, or just Ideology? I kind of think locating Fascism needs to be priority #1 now. Although, well, 3 economic policies from Democracy is pretty tempting too...will defer on this one. But Russia does seem likely to find Fascism well before us with their academy splurge...maybe if we pay close attention there is some way to track which civics they go for? Conservation at least should be a dead giveaway with the appeal bonus on old-growth woods.

[ljubljana]

Actually, what are your kill odds on the single caravel w your clad? Weakening a fleet may be better if they are not that close to 100%, the single caravel should be in frigate kill range already.

Also, 3 Australian caravels from last turn are missing, and they declined to move up more ships in the fog as well. Best guess is they dropped fleets in Illmatic and Low End Theory, but that does not explain all the missing ships...

[Woden]

Only Ideology leads to 2 unknown civics, Suffrage leads to Mass Media, Mobilization, and 1 unknown and Conservation leads to 1 unknown. Suffrage is the right play here and even Conservation next would also be right. Both will be boosted and combined will only take a turn or so to complete compared to Ideology, which is unboostable. Therefore, I would end up with 2 civics versus 1, both routes reveal 2 unknown civics, and they unlock much more useful things (forests and a new Government). But not only that, Mobilization is the real next target unless Suffrage reveals Fascism. I should be able to speed through Suffrage and then speed through Mobilization with a few pillages at Japan's last cities and then maybe even delay Combined Arms if I can get close to finishing Mobilization before the tech would complete. Then, I could put some research into Flight.

As for the caravels, I will smoke the injured caravel 77 vs 58 and he is at about 40% health or I can bring the injured fleet to about 10 health, 69 vs 77 and just under 50% health. I can also hit the fleet caravel south of those 2 and leave it with about 15 health (73 vs 77) or the eastern frigate (54 vs 77) and leave it at about 25 health.

[Woden]

Look what you get on your turn...
   

[ljubljana]

I should think about passing, right? If this is the last industrial GA I should definitely pass, don’t want to give Russia a head start on the first modern GA (which works on destroyers). I do not think it is the last one though, so I guess it could be useful for my two clads? Not really though...let me see what the retirement bonuses are...

[Woden]

I should think about passing, right? If this is the last industrial GA I should definitely pass, don’t want to give Russia a head start on the first modern GA (which works on destroyers). I do not think it is the last one though, so I guess it could be useful for my two clads? Not really though...let me see what the retirement bonuses are...

500 gold and +60% sea trade route plundering. There should be another Industrial GA. Even if there isn't, I think you still take it. You are close to coal and ironclads, so could be useful. Also, are you western holdings building ships? Any place not threatened by Russia should probably be building ships even if you are not running Press Gangs and once we chase his fleet away from our shores, I say go back to building ships.

[ljubljana]

As for the clad attack, let me think... The frigate strike actually has something to recommend it, as your ZoC would then be able to block Australian ships coming up from Low End Theory. But I don't know if we want to leave our only city-taking unit in that much danger.

edit: Which GA did you get? Could be worth passing for Nelson, +50% flanking is a big deal (good for likely +2 or +3 on Russia's ships if they get it). But 60% from TR pillages is also really good, especially since they are about to start pillaging a ton of your TRs lol.

As for ships, all my cities are building walls and Pike/Shot, lmao. But once the current round of P/S finish (don't want to undercommit there after what happened last time) I will start more ships, and have a 1-turn civic saved to make the swap.

[Woden]

As for the clad attack, let me think... The frigate strike actually has something to recommend it, as your ZoC would then be able to block Australian ships coming up from Low End Theory. But I don't know if we want to leave our only city-taking unit in that much danger.

I did say I have another out of Fort Miln next turn and have 3 highly promoted fleets coming in about 4 turns.

Edit: GA grants 1 promotion and +50% combat experience to a naval unit.

[ljubljana]

So that means Nelson is still on the board, right? What do you think is more important to deny to Russia, 500 gold + 60% from pillages or +50% flanking? The flanking is likely worth 2-3 CS per ironclad, but only on offense...the gold is 500 + maybe 250 more for each TR they pillage? Could be in the neighborhood of 2k gold if they can get half your TRs.

edit: I will also check the GP's recruited screen, I think there's a way to get a list of the ones that have been recruited...