July 29th, 2021, 12:06
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I forgot to say before. The warrior went to annoying mode and went into the copper. I lost the first 50% and won the second fight that was 95%
About it Civac, im ORG-SPI i think the best tech it fits with this strategy is CoL so i need to get writting before it finish. On my sims with the 2 chops im doing plus marble plus 1 whip OF i take it sooner than teching writting so i was wondering if it would be better to leave priesthood 1 turn tech and getting some turns of writting before prieshood so that i finish oracle and writting at same time having more turns of response in case someone get prieshood before me. That way i could probably make a settler on that city before Oracle and keep expanding but again, im unsure if thats worth or if i can make it work without sim. If this makes sense. If you feel i didnt answer well enough of you have any other doubts i might feel it was obv and its not. Feel free to ask. As i said on the first posts i wsnt this thread interactive with you lurkers 
July 29th, 2021, 16:32
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Turn 59
I cant log in while other is. I guess its because i have not open ports with my phone (or if i have i dont know how to change those) So untill bellarch and Amica didnt end i couldnt log. Then my father called, and i couldnt play for a while.
But finally i moved, put the axe and a warrior and a worker in the forest north of Daisy, i didnt want that warrior to get my axe somehow and losing the worker.
Next turn 5th city is settled i could start mids actually but ill wait one turn more to make a spear and rise a bit my power. No free spreads yet 
Demos:
Jesse is puting EPs on me again and took tech vision again, he now knows im taking oracle... I really hope he is not following close. I put EPs on him to take that tech vision away, sadly Bellarch is free to have my demos and i cant have his for this, which is a bit sad.
July 30th, 2021, 09:05
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Turn 60
finally found the last player, he seems to be the best rigth now, settled 5 cities like me (the name of the stone city is Iris), not sure if that was this turn or not. Is my scout dead? If it is i wouldnt mind much since it did its job, ill send some chariots to scout a bit the land once i can build them xD
And I am the first one to meet them all.
5 people already got AH and one of then got IW. Which i guess its because of the jungle, im glad i dont have that close.
jesse keeps being a bad guy and putting EPs into me, he has sailing as i said some turns ago and i can see what items he has, and he has no copper yet, he has not even slavery so he might not even get BW on turn 60 which i would say its massive. I guess TBS doesnt know this because his brain would melt.
I am not last on power anymore, im still making some units more just in case. Im still unsure on what to do with priesthood, i could research at 20% or i could get some gold until getting writting, or put some turns on writting. Im sad you cant answer me with this since it would reveal if anyone more is going for oracle . So im getting gold this turn to delay a bit the decision, and get more thinking for it. Im not having as much time as i would want.
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Turn 62
Jesse is going to settle already pretty close to me, but not allowing much more cities close, maybe one on the pig, but i have not AH yet so i think it makes no sense for now, if he forgets ill try to proabbly grab the spot. The sad part is he being close to Rome with praets, im afraid of spliting him and they getting the best part.
The good part is him stacking drill when i want HA?
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Turn 63-64
Im a bit amazed, Bing got 3 cities and i guess he captured/settled that thrird one, seince rekenner got to 2 cities. So either captured or razed and settled. In any case as long as rekenner doesnt die now, its really nice for me since ill be able to get mroe land, and maybe split rekenner with bing instead of getting Jesse? Im afraid of rome getting jesse. I thought maybe them got IW this early to rush him, but it seems they decided to get writting since i have ktb this turn and could ask for OB. I think oracle is fine for me and i hope mids to be too.
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turn 67 and 68.
Getting CoL is a reality, now im thinking on sneak atack of axes into rekenner but not knowing anything of the front seems scary. he has mali so skirmishers would eb taugh to fight against. I think i would still need HA.
Making mids too, this is making me fall a bit behind i would say, im still at 5 cities while amica is already at 7. I really need to keep expanding, thats why war felt a good way into expansion, looking at rekenner graphs might make sense. I think i would make some power demo research to see how many units he has. But im a bit short of time right now.
Demos arent bad still, im falling on food, since several neighbours have more cities than me, but im close to the pack still, and the GNP advantage can maybe lead me towards knights fast enough.
Im sorry for the lack of updates adn its quality but im really short on time. Hopefully next week i get a bit normalized
August 7th, 2021, 01:32
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Turn 69
I was about to dinner yesterday and i couldnt make a proper report for the turn.
Im a bit sad with my map, Amica handled to get gems in a 9 tiles far city, so he will have gold and gems, which is huge. My closest gems to grap or really any precious metal are 12 tiles far and need IW to be worked. Really sad about this. So if i give him my silver for gold he will have the 3 precious metals. Well is not only about map, its also that jesse is not doing okey since he had a really nice city in the hill of my scout that i said like 20 or 30 turns ago. And it seems he didnt settle there.
Jack took the gems of Bing, i would say, but he had gems so he didnt really get a happy boost. Rekenner seems to have silver on my West (his east) So if i atack him and succed i would still lack other metals.
The only thing i can try to get is some calendar resources of the middle of the map, but they are far and Amica is going so fast into settling with IMP. Same on bellarch
Right now i want to settle the clams of Rekenner so i can launch an atack towards him, its not a good spot though.
I asked for OB to Bing since i have a scout close and i want to see his stacks and how is the war vs rekenner.
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Turn 69
Im stupid. I asked for OB to amica and Jesse too, and they have already Sailing, im finishing AH before sailing, so theya re getting 10sh turns of free gold out of me, for free. Which is a bit annoying. My bad.
Next turn i get the capiotl at 7 pop and will go crazy speed towards mids, i think i get them in a safe date.
Making a couple of settlers already and trying to claim a bit more land a bit farther, ill need courthouses to start making magic, im leaving jesse without Eps, since once i get my courthouses he will regret.
August 9th, 2021, 12:34
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Turn 72
We have been 15 people in this small village house (all family basically), and right now we are 4, so i have some time more. Tomorrow my dad and I are leaving so ill come back to my usual posting frequency and hopefully quality.
This is the overview of the empire, just 5 cities, which is slow, but getting 2 wonders (hopefully) will be huge i think, or at least i hope, whiped a settler this turn and will try to make a crapy city close to rekenner claming the clams, i have units enough to hold it, then ill get the wheat city. I was wondering on settling in Jesse's face but then i realized that i want him Big so that Amica/Josh doesnt eat him as easy, although its going to happen, ill be ready to get the closest cities once that happen.
Amica/josh has a WB looking around and got to me from the south, is this map Toroidal?? They dont know every player yet so i dont think there is other way to get to us. If we can hit them by sea and they got a sea capitol mayeb i could try to snipe somehow if they fall behind. They got no real economy, at least if their land is as plains as mine.
Jack had gold close to his border and got a city of the gems of Bing, he is moving some units towards jack so maybe he get that back. It would be good for us.
Got OB with Bing and Rekenner and a scout on their land so ill see how hot is the war, the resources and quality land, so hopefully i can say something more.
Demos arent bad since i ve kept whipign while others didnt, also getting 2 wonders (hopefully). Remember this turn i whiped Lily and Iris.
Into the mids plan, Im pretty sure i got them, I think only jack could be getting them, and i dont think he would this fast. Bellarch got 7 cities and already SH, also got proabbly Monotheism with Jud. I think he is using hammers for expansion with Amica/Josh. Amica/Josh are making huge expansion and i think mids are counter sinergistic with CHA, since you already got a good hapy cap for early. Jesse, i got the same feeling, he is going really slow on expansion and has been getting 5 cities already this last turns, so it seems really not possible for him to get mids with 3 settlers in this last turns. Bing and rekenner are going war, so i dont expect them to get it.
So my only fear is Jack. Now why i think he is not making mids? because he is getting the gems of Bing, he knows that would piss him off so im sure he is making units enough to hold that city, and surely if he wanted mids he would go safer since the lack of production would be dangerous for him. Indeed i made so many units that im regreting now, i should have gotten some more settlers and workers. So thats my plan for the next turns. edit: Indeed i saw around 5 units going towards Jack's gems city from Bing.
In diplo Jesse didnt want to OB with me, which might make sense since he is PRO, but he has several archers looking at my borders with 4 promo. Which doesnt seem too friendly. I have an Axe fortified on a forested hill looking at his cities inc ase he is trying any weird thing. I hope i can help him with Amica somehow.
Not sure if this thougths are clear enough for you, in any case, feel free to ask me anything you wonder
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Turn 73
The wonder of the toroidal is real, i dont see it in options. Maybe its said in other one?
Jack got 7 cities on this turn, 6 on the last, so he is surely going expansion, i dont expect any challenge for the mids.
On the tech there is so many things i want. In the eco, i look for monoteism for OR and monarchy to get wine online and serfdom. In military i would like to get HBR, but im not sure whether thats better than just rex in peace. The best part of the atack is getting a capitol that surely is better than any of my possible cities. But the cost will be really high. Rekenner has no graphs on me, so i can whip to ground a bund of HA and several Axes and get his cities. He just got copper online so he is doing axes i supose. Although his skirmishers are harder than axes i would say. Hopefully i ll see how things are with my scout and decide. He is really low on moral looking at posts and time online, not more than 2 min. Which is a good reason to kill him since he seems to not think much.
Demos, they got better
My micro is lovely for this turn, and i have to show it.
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