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Werewolf 3 Game Thread

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Lynch:
8v: Mr. Nice Guy ( fire & ice, Jkaen, Zakalwe, novice, Lewwyn, Serdoa, Irgy, Meiz )
6v: fire&ice ( Roland, Mr. Nice Guy, Mardoc, scooter, Gold ergo sum, Rowain )

Not Voting:
Bruindane, Ichabod

  1. Lewwyn votes zakalwe
  2. Rowain votes Lewwyn
  3. novice votes zakalwe
  4. zakalwe votes Mr. Nice Guy
  5. Ichabod votes zakalwe
  6. Meiz votes zakalwe
  7. scooter votes zakalwe
  8. Mardoc votes Mr. Nice Guy
  9. Jkaen votes Mr. Nice Guy
  10. novice switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  11. Irgy votes Mr. Nice Guy
  12. Ichabod switches to No Vote
  13. Ichabod switches to Serdoa
  14. Mr. Nice Guy votes JKaen
  15. Roland votes fire&ice
  16. Lewwyn switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  17. Mr. Nice Guy switches to fire&ice
  18. Meiz switches to fire & ice
  19. Jkaen switches to fire & ice
  20. Rowain switches to Zakalwe
  21. Zakalwe switches to fire & ice
  22. Serdoa votes Roland
  23. Ichabod switches to No Vote
  24. Serdoa switches to No Vote
  25. Mardoc switches to fire&ice
  26. novice switches to scooter
  27. fire & ice votes Mr. Nice Guy
  28. Lewwyn switches to novice
  29. scooter switches to fire & ice
  30. Gold ergo sum votes fire & ice
  31. Irgy switches to Bruindane
  32. Jkaen switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  33. novice switches to zakalwe
  34. zakalwe switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  35. novice switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  36. Lewwyn switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  37. Rowain switches to Lewwyn
  38. Serdoa votes Mr. Nice Guy
  39. Irgy switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  40. Meiz switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  41. Rowain switches to fire & ice
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Rowain Wrote:Roland: I don't understand your voting. During the whole day you never voted for zakalwe.

As I already explained, I had no idea why people were voting zakalwe. It wasn't until I dedicated a few hours yesterday to reviewing his posts that I finally saw. I came up with my vote for fire&ice why trying to find someone new, since I had no real reading of 'Wolf on either Mr. Nice Guy or zakalwe. I've since changed my stance a bit on the latter.

Rowain Wrote:Who is more likely a wolf to you zakalwe or f&i?

Well, that's a difficult question. Someone posted the theory that between fire&ice and zakalwe, we should lynch fire&ice first, because if he's a 'Wolf it will incriminate zakalwe. I didn't agree at the time, nor did I disagree - I was indifferent. However, after reviewing it, especially in the context of my theory on fire&ice, and now even more after seeing zakalwe's latest response(s), I feel it's better to lynch zakalwe before fire&ice. Since that won't happen today, if fire&ice gets lynched it may tell us something about zakalwe, although that's hard to gauge. At this point everything for any of the top three suspects (fire&ice, Mr. Nice Guy, zakalwe) can point to either 'Wolf or Villager, in my view. Still, I have no problem with any of those three being up on the block, although I'm the least certain about Mr. Nice Guy of the three (I think).

Anyway, like I said: we'll see what happens.
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Fire&Ice
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30 min to go. No last minute landslide today?

Lynch:
8v: Mr. Nice Guy ( fire & ice, Jkaen, Zakalwe, novice, Lewwyn, Serdoa, Irgy, Meiz )
7v: fire&ice ( Roland, Mr. Nice Guy, Mardoc, scooter, Gold ergo sum, Rowain, Ichabod )

Not Voting:
Bruindane

  1. Lewwyn votes zakalwe
  2. Rowain votes Lewwyn
  3. novice votes zakalwe
  4. zakalwe votes Mr. Nice Guy
  5. Ichabod votes zakalwe
  6. Meiz votes zakalwe
  7. scooter votes zakalwe
  8. Mardoc votes Mr. Nice Guy
  9. Jkaen votes Mr. Nice Guy
  10. novice switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  11. Irgy votes Mr. Nice Guy
  12. Ichabod switches to No Vote
  13. Ichabod switches to Serdoa
  14. Mr. Nice Guy votes JKaen
  15. Roland votes fire&ice
  16. Lewwyn switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  17. Mr. Nice Guy switches to fire&ice
  18. Meiz switches to fire & ice
  19. Jkaen switches to fire & ice
  20. Rowain switches to Zakalwe
  21. Zakalwe switches to fire & ice
  22. Serdoa votes Roland
  23. Ichabod switches to No Vote
  24. Serdoa switches to No Vote
  25. Mardoc switches to fire&ice
  26. novice switches to scooter
  27. fire & ice votes Mr. Nice Guy
  28. Lewwyn switches to novice
  29. scooter switches to fire & ice
  30. Gold ergo sum votes fire & ice
  31. Irgy switches to Bruindane
  32. Jkaen switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  33. novice switches to zakalwe
  34. zakalwe switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  35. novice switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  36. Lewwyn switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  37. Rowain switches to Lewwyn
  38. Serdoa votes Mr. Nice Guy
  39. Irgy switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  40. Meiz switches to Mr. Nice Guy
  41. Rowain switches to fire & ice
  42. Ichabod switches to fire&ice
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Well I caught up this morning (thanks for refraining from a flame war), but it seems there is unlikely to be a late day run on anybody.

I didn't see much of anything that would cause me to switch to MNG. I would like to see a tie vote just to see what novice does. But unless Bruindane votes, we are destined to have an odd number of votes.

I am pretty much sticking on F&I solely because of PB's dying words. F&I seems to be a candidate because no one has a read on him. Problem is, I don't feel like I have a damn read on anybody.
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[STRIKE]fire&ice[/STRIKE] Mr. Nice Guy

I've got a whole new theorysmoke! Each wolf has picked someone in the village to try to get lynched, on the basis that we only have to lose 6 times and we're out, so even if they trade 1 for 1, they only have to get lucky on Day 1 and get their targets lynched before themselves. If true, it might explain the sheer number of vendettas being launched and the widespread support for the 'a wolf would never crusade' theory.

And Mr. Nice Guy has definitely had it in for Jkaen. Most of his comments, upon review, are 'yeah, yeah, interesting, but have you considered Jkaen?'
EitB 25 - Perpentach
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Mardoc Wrote:[STRIKE]fire&ice[/STRIKE] Mr. Nice Guy

I've got a whole new theorysmoke! Each wolf has picked someone in the village to try to get lynched, on the basis that we only have to lose 6 times and we're out, so even if they trade 1 for 1, they only have to get lucky on Day 1 and get their targets lynched before themselves. If true, it might explain the sheer number of vendettas being launched and the widespread support for the 'a wolf would never crusade' theory.

And Mr. Nice Guy has definitely had it in for Jkaen. Most of his comments, upon review, are 'yeah, yeah, interesting, but have you considered Jkaen?'

What does this mean for pocketbeetle? Rowain's target? And who was Selrahc's target?
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Mardoc Wrote:Each wolf has picked someone in the village to try to get lynched, on the basis that we only have to lose 6 times and we're out,

Nitpick: At the start of the game we were allowed 6 wrong lynches and could still win. Cull's untimly demise does cost us one of those.
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Mardoc Wrote:I think I missed this connection - if you can explain to me how MNG would incriminate Zakalwe (or possibly exonerate, if villager?), I'm willing to help test the theory. Or just point me at the post I missed where you already laid it out.
In a nutshell, I believe Zakalwe started to build cover by suspecting his wolf mate, when Mr. Nice Guy was not in danger (F&I 7 votes vs. 2 votes between Zakalwe and Mr. Nice Guy). http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....count=1399

And then lashed his grand theory which in my mind contains one wolf in red and three villagers in white. http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....count=1400

I assume he believed that Mr. Nice Guy is in no danger, so it was good timing. Mr. Nice Guy was still heavily under suspicion, so when we finally lynch him and he is revealed as wolf, we look back and find the two messages above. Unfortunately for him, Mr. Nice Guy got a boatload of votes soon after. Add this to his attempts to draw attention away from Selrahc on Day 2 (F&I vote, uberfish vote).

This is of course all moot if Mr. Nice Guy is revealed as a villager. But I doubt he is.
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Lewwyn Wrote:What does this mean for pocketbeetle? Rowain's target? And who was Selrahc's target?

If my theory has any value, it would implicate at least Rowain and Serdoa.

Gotta admit, Selrahc is a weak spot.

Fastest theory-killing yet! I'm still a coinflip between MNG and f&i in that case, so I suppose there's not much point in changing my mind a third time.
EitB 25 - Perpentach
Occasional mapmaker

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