WW11 - Civilization

[Selrahc]

He said earlier he won't end the day early.

This is before the regular 10pm deadline though. Partial days leave the game out of sync. Ending things a full 24 hours early should be fine.

Let's spend the rest of the day discussing who's wolf in case you show up innocent. For my part, I've stated that I'm stilling willing to change my vote.

MJW and Gaspar.

But I doubt we'll get all that much discussion.

[Cyneheard]

This is before the regular 10pm deadline though. Partial days leave the game out of sync. Ending things a full 24 hours early should be fine.



MJW and Gaspar.

But I doubt we'll get all that much discussion.

I'd rather have the 24h to discuss things. Between work + PBEM34V starting soon, I haven't said much since the discussion got interesting.

iPhone post.

[MJW (ya that one)]

I don't minding the day ending early. There has been not much talking. All I have to say that Cyneheard's post is very strange (having the day going on 24 more hours is just like last time but this time is even worse--what does he think will be different?) but there is no way that is going to carry the lych aganist him.

[Cyneheard]

I don't minding the day ending early. There has been not much talking. All I have to say that Cyneheard's post is very strange (having the day going on 24 more hours is just like last time but this time is even worse--what does he think will be different?) but there is no way that is going to carry the lych aganist him.

The past few hours have had some interesting discussion I want to have a chance to process? I don't see why it's that odd to say "I want a second look at things."

[Gaspar]

I don't have anything to add - the absolute absurdity that this is a potential wolf to some of you:

Day 1 - On scooter and Ichabod
Day 2 - On scooter and Ichabod, voting Ichabod well before the reveal
Day 3 - Part of railroading scooter
Day 4 - On slowcheetah all day
Night 4 - Despite being on or near the top of almost everyone's innocent list, exposes himself to vigilante Selrahc to save us exactly the day we're having today.

Look, you have data on me as a wolf 3 times. I've never once tried a cute play. I hate cute plays and I hate even more cute play theories. I understand that Catwalk, MJW and Rowain can't take 3 breaths without considering them but trust me, no matter how many times I could draw wolf I would never abandon deep cover for some convoluted vig play.

And honestly, if I were to do that as a wolf, wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense to actually kill my target? Be a lot more plausible a denial to kill my target and let the village think Catwalk baner-saved the wolf target. I understand why Selrahc is making this play, he has no choice. But come on guys, let's not be stupid. Discussing alternative theories = good. Discussing completely implausible alternative theories = dumb.

I'd bet good money Selrahc and Cyneheard are the last two wolves. Can we see what happens with Selrahc before we get the pitchforks out?

[Gaspar]

FWIW, I'm always in favor of ending the day early when there's a strong consensus, even when if I were the one on the block.

[MJW (ya that one)]

The past few hours have had some interesting discussion I want to have a chance to process? I don't see why it's that odd to say "I want a second look at things."

Okay, you have not read the thread. I think the next 24 hours will be much more boring then the last days "extra" 24 hours. It's clear to everyone that Selrahc is going down. But you have to make your own choice and the limit is 2200 GMT.

I agree with Gaspar that "cute play" is not in his style. There could have been some metagame reason that made him do it but I just can not see it.

[Selrahc]

Be a lot more plausible a denial to kill my target and let the village think Catwalk baner-saved the wolf target.

Well no. Obviously not. Because Catwalk would have no incentive to lie about that, and doing it that way would leave you wide open to Catwalk saying that he didn't use his bane.

This way, you leave a nice little mystery which you can spend the next few mislynches unravelling, buying off the village goodwill you've built up.

A *lot* of people have said Gaspar is innocent before today. But in order to get the win, the wolves need to provide mislynch candidates. With this way of doing things, Gaspar could potentially get me, Cyneheard and Catwalk all lynched as wolves in trying to unravel his "Kill block". Which is game, if it works. And he still has a wolfy comrade somewhere as insurance if it doesn't...

Seriously, when I die keep a good close eye on Gaspar.

[Catwalk]

I don't have anything to add - the absolute absurdity that this is a potential wolf to some of you:

Day 1 - On scooter and Ichabod
Day 2 - On scooter and Ichabod, voting Ichabod well before the reveal
Day 3 - Part of railroading scooter
Day 4 - On slowcheetah all day
Night 4 - Despite being on or near the top of almost everyone's innocent list, exposes himself to vigilante Selrahc to save us exactly the day we're having today.

Look, you have data on me as a wolf 3 times. I've never once tried a cute play. I hate cute plays and I hate even more cute play theories. I understand that Catwalk, MJW and Rowain can't take 3 breaths without considering them but trust me, no matter how many times I could draw wolf I would never abandon deep cover for some convoluted vig play.

And honestly, if I were to do that as a wolf, wouldn't it make a whole lot more sense to actually kill my target? Be a lot more plausible a denial to kill my target and let the village think Catwalk baner-saved the wolf target. I understand why Selrahc is making this play, he has no choice. But come on guys, let's not be stupid. Discussing alternative theories = good. Discussing completely implausible alternative theories = dumb.

I'd bet good money Selrahc and Cyneheard are the last two wolves. Can we see what happens with Selrahc before we get the pitchforks out?

Last time you were this certain, we wasted a day hanging scooter. If you're a villager and Selrahc is villager, this looks pretty bad for the town.

Just for fun, what's the full case against Selrahc? And what's the full case against Cyneheard? Asking everybody, not just Gaspar.

[Mardoc]

I'd bet good money Selrahc and Cyneheard are the last two wolves. Can we see what happens with Selrahc before we get the pitchforks out?

But, Gaspar, if that's true, then I owe scooter an apology. I don't know that I have that in me .