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I'll go reread matt's day 1 later but Q's day 6 and 7 are just scummy.
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(July 9th, 2013, 04:40)uberfish Wrote: I'll go reread matt's day 1 later but Q's day 6 and 7 are just scummy.
I don't disagree with that. At the same time his earlier days are not scummy.
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Matt was barely present on day 1, but I didn't see anything that was really damning. Posts could be consistent with a busy and therefore ineffective villager imo. But easy for scum to play that way too. So I don't get either a town or village read on him from that day. The main things on mattimeo concern the tracker role:
1) If he is wolf then claiming tracker on day 2 was risky
2) If someone else is wolf then killing pindicator on night 4 was risky
And these two point in opposite directions too. From that I move my previous town read on mattimeo to neutral but not really in scum camp.
I guess the main thing in Q's favour is that if he was distancing gazglum he's done a pretty good job of it. on the other hand 1) he wasn't pushing hard to actually get gazglum lynched early and 2) we know he's a competent scum player which in combination lessen the strength of the town read from that significantly. But these last two days from Q read very strongly like a player interested only in his own survival. He was more interested in trying to put up some defence against me than convince you guys that I'm scum. it doesn't make a lot of sense if he's village and thinks I'm an obvious wolf. Whereas if he's a wolf and knows I'll flip village if I get lynched, he'd want to get me off him to avoid the "oh Uberfish is dead and suspected Q, vote Q" factor.
And today he just drops the subject of my alignment completely and pushes Matt. Why? Because he expected that his own neck was likely to be on the line. and his plan was just to keep pushing the idea that I was scum and had you guys fooled (thus the "well played uberfish" overnight.) But Lewwyn unexpectedly left him an opening by going after Matt. The change of stance is just so abrupt that I don't believe it as village. look at for example confirmed towns in this game trying to figure out people's alignment, evidence A is village, evidence B is scummy etc. There's just no re-evaluation of me to justify dropping me from obv-mastermind-scum to "matt is scummier."
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Lewwyn I guess it's your deciding vote ultimately, but i'll try and give a second opinion on any other tells you have by early afternoon tomorrow.
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(July 9th, 2013, 06:36)Lewwyn Wrote: (July 9th, 2013, 04:40)uberfish Wrote: I'll go reread matt's day 1 later but Q's day 6 and 7 are just scummy.
I don't disagree with that. At the same time his earlier days are not scummy. His earlier days are hardly even anything. Seriously, he has less posts than *me*. And this is Qgqqqqq we're talking about.
Your call, Lewwyn. We can win this, or you can let win the tiebreaker who didn't kill because he knew there were better odds in swaying one of three, rather than one of two, to vote with him; who completely dropped off someone he'd been pushing for the past few days, onto someone he hadn't mentioned in a bad light since before zak died, as soon as he saw that someone was voting for anyone other than him - which is all that he needs to win this.
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OK, sleep time.
Since I'll either be dead or we'll have won (or maybe lost, if uber's been playing us for fools this whole time, like Jkaen said  ) by the time I wake up, good game, all. :D
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Busy day for me today. I'm feeling good about Matt though. Blame me if we lose, I'll accept it, but I think I'm right, my gut says I'm right.
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what makes you think Q is town anyway
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Official Vote-Count
Mattimeo (2.1) - Lewwyn, Qgqqqqq
Qgqqqqq (2) - Mattimeo, uberfish
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(July 10th, 2013, 10:44)uberfish Wrote: what makes you think Q is town anyway
Gut.
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