January 21st, 2020, 10:42
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IIRC, the city is closer to Superdeath's capital than Dark Savants. But neither of them know that I think, they never got vision on each other's caps.
I think I could have lived with Lome in superdeath's position, since it doesn't really take anything of value. And it's just not an efficient use of resources to take that city off skirmishers on a hill. When DS planted a further city by the cow that was asking for trouble though.
Btw, from Dark Savant's side, I think I could also live with losing Lome, since it's again not that important. But I would find it very hard to trust that superdeath wouldn't try come back again in 10t after he's already put so much resources into an attack that doesn't seem to have much benefit besides hurting Mali.
January 21st, 2020, 10:47
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There's also the point that DS was already sort of out of contention before this attack. People in that situation are often looking for some mini-goals to push for, it's not a good time to poke them in the eye.
January 21st, 2020, 12:27
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(January 21st, 2020, 08:33)Coin Wrote: Yep, Superdeath is blind to his own faults. A very human thing to be.
I would be very interested in knowing the distance from their respective capital. That would give an insight into who’s pushing their border furthest.
I think I agree with naufrager here: superdeath did need to war with DS at some point, and there wasn't ever going to be much hope for peaceful coexistence. The problem is that 'fair' and 'enough to win the game' have basically nothing to do with each other.
Superdeath probably shouldn't have invaded right now, he was still expanding while DS was not, plus it would have been good to tech past Skirmisher relevance. But I think he absolutely should have invaded at some point, and DS is correctly recognizing that.
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January 22nd, 2020, 20:43
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Superdeath's war wasn't necessarily a bad idea.
Assuming DS was going to allow him a limited war and then get back to building was most definately a very bad idea.
Relying on your opponent to cooperate with your plans rarely ends well.
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January 25th, 2020, 02:18
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(January 22nd, 2020, 20:43)Thoth Wrote: Superdeath's war wasn't necessarily a bad idea.
Assuming DS was going to allow him a limited war and then get back to building was most definately a very bad idea.
Relying on your opponent to cooperate with your plans rarely ends well.
As von Moltke keeps saying:
"No plan of operations extends with certainty beyond the first encounter with the enemy's main strength"
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January 26th, 2020, 21:47
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I assume Elkad is going for Machinery because Engineering and Feudalism are too far away? Good for Krill and Rusten giving the loan, although I doubt it will make much difference.
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January 26th, 2020, 21:53
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Just read Krill’s update, if Elkad already has Feudalism and knows he’s facing Knights, why go for Machinery over Construction? Did the mod change something? Also, clever Krill for using trade relations to deduce that Rusten gave cash as well to Elkad. This is “into the game” Krill at his best, his staring situation was pretty meh but he has really played well to put himself in a nice position to take advantage if Rusten and OH stumble.
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January 26th, 2020, 21:57
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(January 26th, 2020, 21:53)darrelljs Wrote: Just read Krill’s update, if Elkad already has Feudalism and knows he’s facing Knights, why go for Machinery over Construction? Did the mod change something? Also, clever Krill for using trade relations to deduce that Rusten gave cash as well to Elkad. This is “into the game” Krill at his best, his staring situation was pretty meh but he has really played well to put himself in a nice position to take advantage if Rusten and OH stumble.
Darrell
id suppose that pro/cha NA crossbows with SoZ xp bonus, plus the fact that they are now collateral units as well.. But he needs construction to build crossbows i believe.
January 27th, 2020, 01:45
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Elkad already has feudalism, and there's no engineering without machines ![wink wink](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/wink2.gif)
I guess Elkad will find out that machinery without construction doesn't give him crossbows the same way Pindi did
February 6th, 2020, 18:57
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2MN theory - he got put behind by the early attack so decided to roll the dice and build military. But his neighbours kept pace enough with his build up so he never got a good target. Rather than throw the army at one and then get eaten by the other he's just trying to be spiky for as long as possible.
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