WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Alhambram]

Crossposted with Rowain, nevermind my tally

[sunrise089]

Thanks for answering pindicator. No one cared about my analysis about your dolphin speech and investigative fallout, and as much as I’d like to see that as a grand conspiracy against my skillful reads probably just means no one else assigns much importance. There’s a similar vibe here though where you say “oops, I said something totally not true, sorry” and then everyone moves on.

@Rowain - I did have a 25 minute window to make things 5-6 (Lewwyn still leading) by switching yo Gaspar at the end of Day 3. After that pindicator switched back, and I was just too nervous and too uncertain to make the swap. Maybe that was a mistake and I’ll own up to that. Both Day 3 and Day 4 I am finding it challenging how seemingly very confident early voters shift to other targets during a day. Doing so early to push conversation is one thing, but many people aren’t returning to their early sure reads. Prob-town example of this is you saying Comm -> pind but when Comm flipped wolf not going back to pind. I don’t know whether this is me under-weighting new evidence or others over-weighting it.

[sunrise089]

So final town case word on Kaiser night ability lie is he was hoping wolves would think he was out of charges, not expecting they’d actually target Meiz. And that somehow he just confused himself that it would do some sort of partial protection when by timing that part was impossible. That where we are?

And case for town Meiz in that exchange is scum Meiz wouldn’t have risked the claim since town-Kaiser could say no one visited him?

And case against then both as scum is if both scum they’d never not coordinate and have Kaiser not breadcrumb? Unless as Gaspar says they just didn’t coordinate?

My only real problem with this is why Kaiser would subtly breadcrumb. If you want wolves to think you used up your ability why not make that really direct?

[pindicator]

I don't think town has a chance if 2 of Meiz/Gaspar/Rowain are scum. At some point I have to trust some people as town and dammit Meiz, if you are scum this game .... I don't want to give ultimatums about playing with people but scum has already messed with me once. I don't need a second time. 

Sunrise, about the mixup with "you" there, people had said they were visiting me last night. Jabbz & GES confirmed my actions earlier today. I would have to be in a team with both of them and then we're all sticking our necks out over confirming Rowain as town?

Anyway, I said I thought we had a chance to rally around town-Rowain, so Bob

[Meiz]

sunrise, Are you going to vote? As the votes are tied atm, if you think I'm town, what's your take on Bob?

[sunrise089]

By the way, Meiz, I don’t think you ever helped me force clarity from Jabbz about why he didn’t use his role PM to learn what his ability does

[sunrise089]

@pindicator - I mean, yeah, you, Jabbz, Gold isn’t exactly unbelievable.

@Meiz - the bob train seems super sudden and semi-random. The case is just ‘onto posts lists and never voted near deadline so his vote can never swing things’?

[Meiz]

I think the PM stuff is borderline too metagameys, same as the talk about tmes wwhen I've received a PM from the GM etc.

Pind's vote change switches things. I was starting to get a bit paranoid on sunrise waiting someone to put me at 5 votes, before he will switch away from Kaiser to Bob.

[Rowain]

tally:
5 votes: Bobchillingworth ( Meiz, Rowain,Gaspar,GES.pindicator)
3 votes: Meiz (, Jabbz, Kaiser, Alhambram)
2 votes: Kaiser (Bobchillingworth, , , sunrise)

[Rowain]

@pindicator - I mean, yeah, you, Jabbz, Gold isn’t exactly unbelievable.

@Meiz - the bob train seems super sudden and semi-random. The case is just ‘onto posts lists and never voted near deadline so his vote can never swing things’?

Yes it seems but do you say those 5 voters are scum? Who of them?