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Diplomacy Master Thread- Helping Your Opponents Beat Themselves

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February 9th, 2013, 18:00
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FYI Scooter, it's mentioned in the C&D thread, but I'm quite certain that CivPlayers teched Archery this turn. Just wanted to make sure you know that.
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February 9th, 2013, 19:37
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Revised draft:

Draft to CivPlayers Wrote:Decebal,

I can understand you being cautious. We're being cautious too - early conflict is almost always a bad idea - just look at how bad it's crippled the German team and WPC. I would like to avoid that kind of mistake.

We don't really care about the NAP length to be honest. Name a date and we'll consider it. I think we've made it clear the three things we're interested in - longer NAP, border agreement, and Open Borders that don't come with a big price tag. If we can't agree to all of those that's fine, but you know what we want. However, we still don't know what you want. Hopefully that will change soon . We're looking forward to hearing your offer on this.

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

I like this better - more succinct. I'm going to send the WPC message in just a sec.
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February 9th, 2013, 19:49
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I liked your first draft to CivPlayers better, Scooter, but the second draft is also OK.
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February 9th, 2013, 19:56
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Well then, I thought people didn't like that first paragraph. I'm sort of interested in a informal polling of people who have read both drafts on which version they prefer, so share your opinion. If there's a majority I'll go with it. I'm not going to wait much longer to send one of them, though.
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February 9th, 2013, 19:57
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The only change, if you hadn't sent it would be to do:

"We're being cautious too, we don't want to end up like the Germans."
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February 9th, 2013, 20:25
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Less is more.

Their bullshit about worrying over our military buildup is laughable as we offer NAPs again and again.
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February 9th, 2013, 20:29
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(February 9th, 2013, 20:25)fluffyflyingpig Wrote: Their bullshit about worrying over our military buildup is laughable as we offer NAPs again and again.

Yeah, this was the conclusion I've eventually come to. Their whole paragraph where they try to flip it back on us is total nonsense, and surely they know that.
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February 9th, 2013, 22:06
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Is it that unfeasible to militarize/culture up that border?
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February 9th, 2013, 23:04
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Went ahead and sent that shorter draft to CivPlayers now. All we need now is drafts to the Spanish and UCiv teams - should be up before the night is over.
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February 9th, 2013, 23:35 (This post was last modified: February 9th, 2013, 23:37 by scooter.)
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Draft to Spanish Apolyton. Here was their original message in spoilers, partially so you can reference it, partially so you can remember how hilarious it was. lol

Spanish Wrote:Cool! nice to see you. Firsto fo all sorry for the delay in answering. Im in vacations and I connect in time to time. Our early scout also been slow down as he had been the brakefast of an angry lion.

We are glad the exchange knowladge with you guys, We meet CFC as you allready know. Franches are far east from us- And in the north of us you will find UniversCiv, but you would have to go arround a big lack.

see you, and tell us if you are planing any party... we lave partys!!!!! wink

Draft to Spanish Apolyton Wrote:Oh, I'm sorry to hear you lost a scout - we also lost our first unit to an especially hungry lion. I guess we should work together to declare war on all lions smile. We have since killed many barbarians to get revenge!

Thanks for the map info! We have the German and WPC team to our north - they have been fighting a lot. To our southeast is CFC who have been pretty peaceful, and we have just met CivPlayers to our west. We actually did just meet UniversCiv, but they are very far from us.

How are you getting along with your neighbors? Any problems so far? Ours seem pretty nice for the most part. We did see that your Impi had some very nice promotions - he must have won a lot of great battles.

Let me know if I can help you guys with anything!

Thanks,
scooter - Team RB

Goal was just a light-hearted and chatty message which is consistent with what they sent us. See how they respond. We could NAP up with them I suppose, but they're also miles away from us so I'm not in a rush to shove a NAP down their throats just yet. We can probably get some decent trade routes with them once they're hooked to us, but that will probably take some more time. Any thoughts here?

edit: made a minor edit to the message - mixed up a detail between these guys and UCiv
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