[SPOILERS] enough is ENOUGH! scooter opens some windows and finishes first!

[scooter]

Are you counting on incense happy pre-calendar? Because you need calendar for that. Otherwise people would just settle on or fort their calendar resources and ignore the tech.

Really? Well that's news to me. I just assumed Calendar lets you BUILD the plantation, not enjoy it's effects.

[dazedroyalty]

I thought we were talking about settling on the elephants to get the intercontinental trade routes. Is it any better to have multiple cities on the islands? In other words - yes, there's a large economic benefit to securing one economic trade route... But getting a second city on an island doesn't actually help does it?

Well there's only a certain number of Overseas routes available from 1 city. So 2 overseas cities doubles the number of overseas routes we could have. I think. I'm hazy on TR mechanics still!

[dazedroyalty]

Really? Well that's news to me. I just assumed Calendar lets you BUILD the plantation, not enjoy it's effects.

That was my impression too. In my mind i thought you could conquer a city from a civ that had Calendar and part of the bonus was getting to use their calendar resources. But, I can't actually say I knew that for sure. So, bummer on being wrong.

EDIT: wooops... double posted.

[scooter]

Well there's only a certain number of Overseas routes available from 1 city. So 2 overseas cities doubles the number of overseas routes we could have. I think. I'm hazy on TR mechanics still!

Does anyone know exactly how this works and/or know a link where I can find an explanation? I don't even know what the limit of routes you can get from one city is. If this is true, then yeah we'll want to settle on as many 1-tile islands as possible.

[dazedroyalty]

Does anyone know exactly how this works and/or know a link where I can find an explanation? I don't even know what the limit of routes you can get from one city is. If this is true, then yeah we'll want to settle on as many 1-tile islands as possible.

Yeah there has to be some limit. It's not like we can build one city overseas and then have 15 cities on the mainland getting TRs with it! I would guess it's it can only give as many as it can receive. T-Hawk, come to the rescue!

[scooter]

Ok yeah the Calendar thing is true - just ran a quick test. It didn't even show up on the city screen. Well size 8 will have to be the cap. Calendar is going to be a hugely important tech btw - I count 5 calendar resources surrounding us. Once we get that, we can grow quite large.

Yeah there has to be some limit. It's not like we can build one city overseas and then have 15 cities on the mainland getting TRs with it! I would guess it's it can only give as many as it can receive. T-Hawk, come to the rescue!

Yeah I have no idea what it is, so if anyone smarter than me knows, please tell! In the meantime I'll do some searching online and see if I can figure it out.

[SevenSpirits]

One island city can supply one trade route each to all your other cities. Once you start having cities with multiple routes (i.e. after Currency) you ideally want correspondingly more island cities.

[scooter]

One island city can supply one trade route each to all your other cities. Once you start having cities with multiple routes (i.e. after Currency) you ideally want correspondingly more island cities.

Okay got it, thanks. Well in that case we're definitely settling on several islands. For the town we'll want to ferry over a couple units and pillage it down first. That city could be a pain to defend from Lewwyn - that's some reason for Metal Casting actually for Triremes.

[T-hawk]

An island city can supply a better trade route to every single one of your homeland cities. There's no limit; Dazed I have no idea where you got that idea. So one island city ASAP and a second at Currency always pays off. Two more with the Great Lighthouse, naturally.

Re Academy, of course it doesn't help much early in an economic crash, but you might wish you had it pretty soon after you recover with courthouses and Bureaucracy. Up to you.

All resources can only be connected once you have the technology for its natural improvement. I think this may have been a rule applied in some patch; I remember that forting Oil (revealed at Scientific Method) to hook it up early (before Combustion) was a standard play in earlier days.

[scooter]

An island city can supply a better trade route to every single one of your homeland cities. There's no limit; Dazed I have no idea where you got that idea. So one island city ASAP and a second at Currency always pays off. Two more with the Great Lighthouse, naturally.

Yeah so settling on that town (and pillaging it down first) is very high priority right now.

Re Academy, of course it doesn't help much early in an economic crash, but you might wish you had it pretty soon after you recover with courthouses and Bureaucracy. Up to you.

I'll need to think about this. It's short-term vs long-term. Dazed, any thoughts on this? Well, this isn't something that needs to be decided right this second - we can decide much closer to when we actually get Currency - by then we'll have a better picture of where we stand in comparison to everyone else.