Adlers thread

[AutomatedTeller]

We got a new GP this turn... an engineer.

I'm unclear as to what to do with it.

I'd like to rush something, but I'm not sure what. Sistine seems to be the obvious choice - we have Sankore, Sistine, ToA and Paya available. Chichen Itza was just built.

Sistine seems like the right thing, which at least gives us a shot at a culture victory - anything seems out of reach, with OH and Rusten being so strong. Most likely, of course, is that we try it and get run over by destroyers and infantry, but what the heck?

We do have a bunch of religions now, so that's possible.

[AutomatedTeller]

Also, Superdeath keeps asking me to attack DarkSavant. I don't have a problem doing so, but I'm a long way from having a military that can do anything to him. I currently have 1 mace, some vultures and some archers - couple of caravels. It's a long way...

[AutomatedTeller]

I could put the engineer into my pocket and beeline communism, use it for the Kremlin. That's a strong play, assuming I can get there - OH is up education, philosophy, liberalism and presumably guilds along that path, plus they presumably have unis and oxford by now.

Is it too early to concede, btw? Probably. I mean, it seems clear that OH is going to win, unless Rusten can take him, but there are places other than 1st.

[Adler]

Hi sorry for inactivity. I should check the game next week, this weekend I'll be busy.

Culture seems a long shot, how many religions we currently have?

Have we settled all the islands to the north?

The option to attack Dark Savant seems interesting, but I'd have to evaluate the situation ingame before giving better opinions. The islands seem like a good target for a limited war and tbh war could be fun  .

[AutomatedTeller]

I think attacking DS is a thing to do, but we literally cannot do it right now. We have 1 mace and no transport near by. His closest city has 4 skirmishers and 2 crossbows in it. I figure it's 10-20 turns away. I think we should do it - Rusten is right beyond him, but he shares land with Superdeath, so if we can roll both them, that would be great. Is that possible? No idea.

We are still settling islands

I think culture is a long shot, sure. I don't have a better use for the GE - Sistine is useful, if just to deny it for someone else - also, to grow culture in cities, especially if we ever go to mercantilism. I'll hold off on building it one more turn.

We do have 5 religions, mainly judaism and christianity. We are missing buddhism and confucianism.

I get that culture is a long shot, but we have basically no chance of winning any other way. We might have a chance with this. Probably not, though.

[Adler]

Ok, I've taken a look at the game. It will be hard to do the build up without raising alarm from DS since he has scout and work boats on our lands. Getting the transport is the limiting factor, but getting a flotilla of 5-7 galleys past his scout workboats is hard. Imo the northern cities and islands nearby should be the ones to build those.

Maybe we could close borders (when almost ready to attack) and ask for money in return for reopening borders? That could be a little less suspicious than just closing borders. Otherwise concentrating forces to invade is harder. Would need to make it look like just building up power to ward off invasions rather than going for offensive. 

I wonder if we'd need a better military unit than maces? Knights would be 2 teches away and DS hasn't got engineering yet.

[AutomatedTeller]

Couple of things:

1) Found another island to the east. It's not accessible by galley and a barb city just popped up on it.
2) We have guilds and are researching gunpowder. I was thinking of banking and we will need that, but I don't want to switch to mercantilism, we are getting so much from foreign trade routes.
3) We got our next GP - yet another engineer. Not sure what to do with it. Thinking of saving it for something, but I'm not sure what. We could kick off a GA, I suppose.

Lot of war in the world. Commodore is eating Superdeath. We are still settling the rest of the long island.

[Hollybombay]

Couple of things:

1)  Found another island to the east.  It's not accessible by galley and a barb city just popped up on it.  
2)  We have guilds and are researching gunpowder.  I was thinking of banking and we will need that, but I don't want to switch to mercantilism, we are getting so much from foreign trade routes.
3)  We got our next GP - yet another engineer.  Not sure what to do with it.  Thinking of saving it for something, but I'm not sure what.  We could kick off a GA, I suppose.

Lot of war in the world.  Commodore is eating Superdeath.   We are still settling the rest of the long island.

You do know that Merc hasnt taken away foreign trade routes in awhile now... Right?

[AutomatedTeller]

Couple of things:

1)  Found another island to the east.  It's not accessible by galley and a barb city just popped up on it.  
2)  We have guilds and are researching gunpowder.  I was thinking of banking and we will need that, but I don't want to switch to mercantilism, we are getting so much from foreign trade routes.
3)  We got our next GP - yet another engineer.  Not sure what to do with it.  Thinking of saving it for something, but I'm not sure what.  We could kick off a GA, I suppose.

Lot of war in the world.  Commodore is eating Superdeath.   We are still settling the rest of the long island.

You do know that Merc hasnt taken away foreign trade routes in awhile now... Right?

Well, NOW I do thanks

Banking it is!!  Looks like time to kick off a GA with our GE.

[AutomatedTeller]

So, an update:

The top players are all eating other guys - SD has bowed out. Rusten (I think) is eating DS, so he's going to be on our doorstep soon, so that's a problem

Finished the GA - ending civs are:

Bureau
Free Market
Theocracy
Slavery
Hereditary Rule

Making missionaries.

Teching Rifling, which will give us a pretty good mil advantage against others.

I think it's time for Astro after that - we will need the better ships. I think the plan is to knock out DS - Gavagai is north of us, and he might be next. GKC is another possible target.