WW 31 Game Thread PARANOIA

[novice]

Tally as of post 1690:

4 votes: Rowain (novice, sunrise089, Jowy, spacetyrantxenu)
3 votes: Ryan (Ichabod, Serdoa, Catwalk)
2 votes: sunrise (Qgqqqqq, Bobchillingworth)
2 votes: Spacetyrantxenu (zakalwe, Imana-665-C)
1 votes: Azarius (Rowain)
1 votes: Catwalk (Ryan)
1 votes: Ichabod (Azarius)

Voting history:

sunrise089

sunrise

Ryan

Azarius

Rowain

Rowain

Catwalk

sunrise

Rowain

Azarius

Rowain

sunrise

Ichabod

Sunrise

Sunrise

Rowain

Spacetyrantxenu

Spacetyrantxenu

Ryan

Ryan

Ryan

Funny how Xenu asked to be allowed a late claim, and then Q dictated a claim order where Xenu claims first, and the mass claim ground to a halt.

I think everybody should claim ASAP. Regardless of Xenu's reasons, I think it's antitown for everybody else to not claim at this point.

[novice]

I think I will vote Ichabod. He has been a fun presence but his scumhunting contribution has been sadly lacking. He's been insisting that I'm scum based on "a hunch". Now he's trying to lynch the seer.

Ichabod, did you and Sunrise set up any communication schemes on D2 based on your abilities?

[Ryan]

Serdoa theres a problem here. If novice is town and You lynch me. You will have a confirmed town that will be killed tonight. I would be okay to die if you atleast get a town with two lives. I am able to find a commie tonight at least. Dont you think its scummy how you and Ichabod want me dead?

[Ichabod]

I think I will vote Ichabod. He has been a fun presence but his scumhunting contribution has been sadly lacking. He's been insisting that I'm scum based on "a hunch". Now he's trying to lynch the seer.

Ichabod, did you and Sunrise set up any communication schemes on D2 based on your abilities?

No, I didn't even mention my role to Sunrise.

[novice]

I think I will vote Ichabod. He has been a fun presence but his scumhunting contribution has been sadly lacking. He's been insisting that I'm scum based on "a hunch". Now he's trying to lynch the seer.

Ichabod, did you and Sunrise set up any communication schemes on D2 based on your abilities?

No, I didn't even mention my role to Sunrise.

It would seem like a natural thing to do with two weak communication roles - try to combine them into something useful.

[Ryan]

Why is bob being ignored. This is something I feel. Discussion is being diverted away from a killer after two town vigis have already been confirmed. I think we should apply more pressure on the remaining killers.

[Serdoa]

Serdoa theres a problem here. If novice is town and You lynch me. You will have a confirmed town that will be killed tonight. I would be okay to die if you atleast get a town with two lives. I am able to find a commie tonight at least. Dont you think its scummy how you and Ichabod want me dead?

Well, someone has to be a watcher (MJW got that role), so that's a risk I'm willing to take as the watcher would see who visits novice and therefore is the killer.

On the other hand, you have a point in that lynching you makes less sense as we know now who the "killers" are, so if you check someone else and find a killer we have a scum. I'm willing to gamble on that actually. Not sure why no one is spelling that out since an hour, because that would help as someone I'm blind to the obvious and I'm pretty certain, judging by this thread, that I am not the only one.

Anyhow, in that case

spacetyrantxenu

[Ichabod]

I think I will vote Ichabod. He has been a fun presence but his scumhunting contribution has been sadly lacking. He's been insisting that I'm scum based on "a hunch". Now he's trying to lynch the seer.

Ichabod, did you and Sunrise set up any communication schemes on D2 based on your abilities?

No, I didn't even mention my role to Sunrise.

It would seem like a natural thing to do with two weak communication roles - try to combine them into something useful.

Well, I guess if I trusted Sunrise more I would have tried a little harder to think of something. Since I don't trust him, it kind of loses the purpose...

[Ryan]

Serdoa why not bob?

[Jowy]

Okay, I keep going through theories and none fit perfectly. I'll just start us off with something since it's already getting late in the day. Right now it's looking like the scum have two night kills. N1 two kills (Ryan, Lewwyn) remain unclaimed, N2 one kill remains unclaimed (MJW), N3 three kills remain unclaimed (MJW, Zak, Novice) but we can quite safely assume that MJW hit Novice with his vig shot, which leaves two kills unclaimed. If Azarius is scum, then his kills are scum's too, naturally. I believe his role claim though, it sounds like something too easy to mess up if you are lying. His two targets have been who I believe to be town, but he was after both of them on the day before. Anyway, back to it: We're missing a kill on N2. A few possibilities here. Novice was scrubbed that night, and the next night he visits MJW who dies: Novice is scum with a role that can kill. This would also mean that Ryan lied and is scum. Which means that on N1, scum killed their own (Ryan), used Ryan's ability on Lewwyn in order to frame him if the result was positive, but also killed Lewwyn on the same night which makes it harder to get him miss-lynched. Second option is that Ryan is town and was targeted N2, Rowain is town and used the item to protect him, and novice is town via Ryan's scan. What's weird about this is that the scum would target Ryan when they know that there is a protective item and a doctor around, in fact a doctor that would kill off Ryan if he protects Ryan and Ryan doesn't get attacked.

Both scenarios have their problems. Maybe there are multiple scum factions? Maybe there are relevant power roles still hiding in the shadows? Maybe I'm missing something? Help me out here

Oh, and we're also missing Azarius' delayed kill on N3, which was supposed to be Serdoa according to Azarius