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No, I will take a (long) break from the forum after this game. I doubt an "Always Peace" game will solve any of my issues I have with the current meta. I will return to my happy days playing single player. The main issues I see with MP and the meta are:
1. It takes way too long to finish a game (this could never be solved)
2. The meta tends towards hyper-warmongering (heavy whipping, no war weariness, keep strong 2-mover units e.g. everything that makes it easier to conquer somebody)
3. Diplomacy scares most players, when it actually is the one thing in which MP is superior to single player
4. Players prefer balanced maps, which don't tend towards interesting diplo games. Maps like from the random games together with diplomacy would be great, but I doubt that will ever happen as rare as both these game types are.
5. No barbarians, which just boosts the REXing in the beginning changing the whole dynamic in the beginning of the game.
Yes an Always Peace game addresses some of my issues, but in the end I would only play a singleplayer game that stretches over months. Now I don't mean to say that this is all wrong. If you want to play like that, do that. In the end I am the wrong player for this kind of play.
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Whew yeah, Always Peace MP games do *not* solve the issue if you want to lower aggression; that is easily the MOST aggressive MP gametype. The kind of bleeding edge hyper-optimized REXing that Always Peace requires is staggering.
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Question for the lurkers. Scooter turned around and attacked me. He said he offered peace for my 2 cities of Toby Fox and Kirkhope. We agreed to only trade 1 city. Mjmd is also around the corner to maybe capture something. Scooter has screenshots in his thread.
Question for you: Am I allowed to accept the peace deal?
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(July 20th, 2023, 09:55)Charriu Wrote: Question for the lurkers. Scooter turned around and attacked me. He said he offered peace for my 2 cities of Toby Fox and Kirkhope. We agreed to only trade 1 city. Mjmd is also around the corner to maybe capture something. Scooter has screenshots in his thread.
Question for you: Am I allowed to accept the peace deal?
The setup rulesheet for this game clearly states one city trade per peace deal, so if you accept the deal and another player asks for a reload it will be granted.
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Scooter and I already cleared up the situation. I did not accept. Scooter will try to conquer TobyFox and then offer peace for Kirkhope. Thanks for chiming in
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Well that escalated quickly. Superdeath and Scooter signed peace with Mjmd. Scooter declared war on me and by now captured TobyFox and got Kirkhope in a peace deal. I think that more or less marks the end of this game as Mjmd will roll over me. I also expect Superdeath to show up any minute to have some fun in my lands, because why not. Everybody gets to take revenge on somebody it seems in these last turns and why should I sit this out. That's why I'm sending an army up north to raze some Bing cities, just for fun.
Look at this screenshot very closely. I actually achieved something great in there. Did you find it? Well actually it wasn't me who achieved it, but rather Mjmd. He used his privateers to plunder me resulting in me having -5 gold in the bank.
But that's not all. I suspect that this is a rather serious bug. I found out that I cannot whip anything anywhere even those cities that are capabale to whip. I suspect that the negative gold is connected with that. The hurry with gold mechanic actually uses the same code as the hurry with population (aka whipping). And I suspect that somewhere in there is a check for positive gold in the bank that unintentionally also affects the hurry with population mechanic. I see no reason to halt this game that more or less ended anyway for a bug like this.
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(This post was last modified: July 25th, 2023, 08:49 by Charriu.)
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Well wouldn't you know it. Superdeath came around with his horses and declared war on me too.
Something will hit Bing next turn.
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Mjmd came around and offered me peace even with a long NAP. I declined. What is wrong with Mjmd here? I already lost more then half of my empire by now. Why stop now? Just conquer me and win the game already.
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Some may have noticed my post about leaving the forum. To my fellow PB70 players I just want to say that I purposefully waited to post this until it's almost the end for me here. To be honest I had hoped PB70 never would have started after that unglorious ending of PB67. I already felt the way I described in my post about playing here back then. I still think ending PB67 was a mistake as that game could have been a way better diplo game then this game was.
And if you disagree with me. Well that just shows that I am at odds with the player base here like I said in my mod thread.
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