[Spoiler]PB44 Lurker Thread: Nostalgia Edition

[GeneralKilCavalry]

He got it.

[Coin]

This is going to be really Interresting in relation to the new high seas rules in the RtR mod. Perhaps a showcase of what it is designed to fix?
How do you defend against an attack that can come from anywhere and be over before you can react?

[Chevalier Mal Fet]

How do you defend against an attack that can come from anywhere and be over before you can react?

I believe the accepted strategy is to do unto others before they do unto you.

[Coin]

How do you defend against an attack that can come from anywhere and be over before you can react?

I believe the accepted strategy is to do unto others before they do unto you.

Ah, ”the best defense is a good offense”.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

Strange of SD to not have settled the tundra coast yet - financial + coast, no matter the inland terrain, is always a net benefit. Seem to also be some deer there.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

Kudos to Alhazard. Very methodical defense and perfectly executed counter attack. Will be interesting to see if gav follows thru on attacking SD or pulls back to focus on the naval front. That decision could decide the game.

[Bobchillingworth]

Strange of SD to not have settled the tundra coast yet - financial + coast, no matter the inland terrain, is always a net benefit. Seem to also be some deer there.

SD's lagging in crop yield is surely accountable in part to his refusal to settle the five or so filler spots he has available to him (more if he claimed some of the resource-less jungled grassland tiles off his cost). I guess by this point they wouldn't pay off, if he's assuming the game is over by Cavs.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

Walls are going up to then go into castles for more trade routes/coastal defense. After that? Other than some cities finishing up vital infrastructure, everything will be producing knights/very soon ( 6t? ) Cuirs.

Is it just me or is that a play? This post is devolving into a rant as I'm writing it, so sorry to superdeath who will read this down the line and to fellow lurkers.

Do the math, assuming he has stone, because if he doesn't then I have no comment:
75 hammer investment on a city that nets 1 extra trade route (3 commerce per turn on average) that will last him until he researches economics (where he could, ya know, switch to free market and then research the relatively cheap corporation tech and get 2 routes instead of one), which is 40 turns down the line. (really giving him a lot of leeway there). So, perhaps 120 extra commerce on a city. Let's compare with some alternatives:

1. Call 1-800-GOLDNOW. That's 1-eight hundred, gold now (ok, ok, more like 80 but the point still stands). He could use immediate wealth production to fuel a push in the direction of rifling, or get chemistry for that unfortunate, but heavily-workshopped terrain of his (now that i look on the map in screenshots, i see he's not even really working them). Short term gains outweigh most everything when you are behind and are losing. Also, if he doesn't have stone, this is just a terrible investment at face value.
   
2. Build a city. He has a city near the whales he could plant that would be able to grow pretty easily. (Also, he's building an aqueduct in a city nearby which still has health to go? Dubious investment as well.
   
3. Build units. Nuff said.
   
4. Build actually useful building like idk, grocers/markets everywhere?
   

Superdeath is safe right now and he more or less realizes it, so dev and catch up and not do whatever.

Also, is there an apostolic palace built or something? i don't see why SD would be building temples.

I don't think his chances are as good as he says they are, but he is right to asses the situation as one of great opportunity. Naval warfare is a huge resource drain for both Alhazard and Gavagai, and SD should make the best of it.

Question is, what are commodore's plans...

EDIT: Wait, alhazard captured, not burned the moai city. That's bold.

[AutomatedTeller]

Commodore is just turtling until the game is over.

I don't really have a good sense as to who is going to win - I think it's alhazard, but different people are ahead in different parts of the tech tree.

[shallow_thought]

I guess by this point they wouldn't pay off, if he's assuming the game is over by Cavs.

Thing is, part of persuading the opposition to concede is making them believe that if they play on you will get stronger and  stronger. There's some value in things that won't strictly pay off before the turns stop.