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Another interesting thing to notice. The person who first brought the idea of both PB and Rowain being villagers was Bruindane.
What do you think about Rowain, Novice?
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Rowain Wrote:A theory for you to consider.
Maybe I'm just dense, but I fail to see any connection between the data you presented and the conclusion you came to.
I also pose a question to you: since you feel you are unjustly and wrongly accused of being a 'Wolf, how do you feel is the best way to determine who is a 'Wolf and who is a Villager?
I'm also curious if you still feel I am a 'Wolf, although I suppose I could hazard a guess that you no longer feel that is the case? If that is so, is it based upon your theories about the remaining 'Wolves, or based upon evidence that I am a Villager (or lack of evidence that I am a 'Wolf)?
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Rowain, I'm sorry, but that looks to me like an accusation, not a theory. What's the connection here? Just that they disagree with each other a lot?
It doesn't explain why none of your suspects voted for Lewwyn Day 3, for instance. It also doesn't explain why they let Selrahc die Day 2 when they could have had you instead.
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Ichabod Wrote:Another interesting thing to notice. The person who first brought the idea of both PB and Rowain being villagers was Bruindane.
It stands to reason that the only logical explanation for Bruindane to tie two people together, being that he was a 'Wolf, would be for him to grant cover to one of his fellow 'Wolves, knowing full well the other was a Villager. Otherwise, why expose yourself? I assume that Bruindane made this statement around the time of the pocketbeetle / Rowain standoff? Therefore, if Rowain is a Villager there would be no reason for him to try defending him - far better, and easier, for him to simply hold his tongue about the whole ordeal, or even imply that we should lynch Rowain "just to be sure".
Indeed, the evidence does seem to be mounting against Rowain, although I will give him credit for attempting a defense. Still, his constant and increasingly rapid shifting of suspicion from one target to the next (almost always choosing people who are themselves under suspicion by someone else) is not helping his case any. I may actually feel bad if it turns out he's a Villager, considering all the weight being pressed upon him, but I would equally be surprised. Still, he's had a good run either way. Hopefully he can at least relish in the fact that he made it to the "end game".
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Rowain, I'm sorry, but your theory doesn't make any sense. You picked 3 random people and showed who they voted for...
So...?
I don't think Jkaen is a wolf. A lot of his posts, in my opinion, wouldn't have been made by a wolf. He had reasons to suspect the people on top of the list. This is confirmed by the fact that PB, F&I and MNG ended up being lynched by the village and cull was probably going to be on the list too, if he hadn't been mod killed.
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Mardoc Wrote:It doesn't explain why none of your suspects voted for Lewwyn Day 3, for instance. It also doesn't explain why they let Selrahc die Day 2 when they could have had you instead.
This also. At this point, lynching Rowain will gives us the most amount of information, in my opinion. Day 2 is the only day we managed to take down a 'Wolf, and both Rowain and pocketbeetle were also on the block. With 3 targets on the board that day, keeping it relatively neck and neck for much of it, it's crucial that we understand what happened. We know pocketbeetle was a Villager. We know Selrahc was a 'Wolf. If Rowain is a 'Wolf, it should give us a clearer picture of the potential reasons for each person's vote. That would be crucial information at this stage in the game. Of course, in the unlikely event Rowain turns up a Villager it doesn't help us at all, but it does make Meiz a much more attractive target.
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Ichabod Wrote:What do you think about Rowain, Novice?
I think his crusade against PocketBeetle was bizarre and I would like to hear an explanation. The only explanation I've been able to think of is that he set out to "do something that no wolf would ever do" on a high risk, high reward mission. It also fits with him running for Mayor.
So... Fixated on a single suspect and running for Mayor... The only catch is this behaviour reminds me of someone else as well, who has totally legitimate reasons for his behaviour... yours truly. Still, a kettle may well be black even if it's a pot that's pointing it out.
I have to run.
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Rowain Wrote:A theory for you to consider.
lets start with the famous list of Jkaen
Now the first thing I found suspicious about this list was the missing of Lewwyn.
Jkaen Wrote:I will try to do the decency of at least reveiving Lewwyn's post, but due to a bit of budying up and him starting the villager lynch my gut says 7/10.
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Well Ichabod if you believe I'm a wolf I have granted you that I will vote for myself if you want that.
So speak that you call my debt and I vote for myself and the case is closed.
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Roland Wrote:It stands to reason that the only logical explanation for Bruindane to tie two people together, being that he was a 'Wolf, would be for him to grant cover to one of his fellow 'Wolves, knowing full well the other was a Villager. Otherwise, why expose yourself?
To play Devil's Advocate here, although I still think Rowain's guilty; any time a wolf makes a true statement, he likely grants himself cover as a result. If Rowain were a villager, then if/when we lynched him, Bruindane would have been further trusted.
On the other hand, Bruindane said so little all in all, and as far as I know was unsuspected anyway, that your explanation fits better. Spend a little credibility from the trusted wolf to keep alive a non-trusted wolf a bit longer.
I'm not sure I buy your theory that we'll learn a lot from lynching Rowain, though; I've racked my brains and haven't come up with much in the way of connections between him and anyone else. I want to lynch him cause he's a probable wolf, but I don't expect tomorrow to be any easier as a result.
Of course I just got finished talking about how bad I am at this game and how unlikely it is for my thoughts to be right, so take that with a grain of salt . There's probably something pretty obvious connecting him and another target and I've just blithely gone sailing by.
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