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Werewolf 2 Lurker Thread: Spoilers!

novice Wrote:Do you think there was any way to defend against the lynching on day three? Could you not think of a way, or did the wolves decide to cut you lose and try to get a positive spin out of your death? I guess with so many power roles revealed the devil isn't much more valuable than any other wolf?

Not without another viable candidate. The fact that the entire thing was conducted with lies gave me a big opening, but I just couldn't really think of anyone else who I could get under the bus instead of me. I think I undermined their credibility quite a lot.. but all that did was make undecided people want to lynch me as a "test".

It did get all the power roles out into the open.

Werewolves know Kyan is the owl.
They know Mr Nice Guy has a special role. Now I'm guessing possessed, but the wolves don't know that.
They know Lewwyn is a mason.
And obviously Sunrise revealed in thread he was the seer, and I had scanned him.

So yeah lots of information got out.

Luddite was a shot in the dark kill. We just though... maybe he has a special role. There was no "Leak". Sometimes werewolves just guess right.

I don't think the "Werewolf Slip" that Uberfish was talking about was a slip at all.


Also, I think MJW should just have been modkilled. This method is rather arbitrary.
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Selrahc Wrote:
Werewolves know Kyan is the owl.
They know Mr Nice Guy has a special role. Now I'm guessing possessed, but the wolves don't know that.
They know Lewwyn is a mason.
And obviously Sunrise revealed in thread he was the seer, and I had scanned him.

So yeah lots of information got out.

How did they know that Kyan is the owl? Did they scan him?
Also, do the wolves not know who the posessed is?
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They didn't scan the owl. I believe that was leaked to a wolf for some reason.
[SPOILER]Uberfish
To be honest though, Kyan's massively zealous defence of the owl would have put him in the books.

As to Mr Nice Guy... We had no notion of any possessed role. He contacted me on my lynch day telling me he had a secret role and to vote for Gaspar along with "Any support I could muster". That rung alarm bells with me. I was personally thinking he was the fool, and was contacting me to try and get the wolves to reveal themselves trying to save me. I passed those thoughts on to the wolves, but didn't hear much back from them on it. If Mr Nice Guy is smart, he'll try a similar approach today on Uberfish. I can see his difficulty, not knowing if someone is definitely a wolf. But he sounded like he was fishing to me. Hopefully he'll be a tad less covert today.

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Am I alone in thinking there are too many roles? I like werewolf when there's villagers, a few wolves and a seer.

In an unrelated to this game note: Has anyone played The Resistance? It's a little bit like werewolf but without player elimination.
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I think the wws will kill Kyan tonight because of the leak. They will do this because Sunrise might not send in his scry request again...

If scooter and sedro are wws they will be lyched and the "Godfather" might get lyched by the wolves for having no way to back up his PM. If scooter and sedro just don't like Roland the village is just going down. Please put some effort into making the "endgame" kills gory. People like effort F&I. smile
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10 Werewolf Finding Tips

1. If it helps victory,a werewolf will happily cast suspicion on another werewolf.
Uberfish pushes for my lynching on flimsy evidence, because we were pretty certain I was going to get scried at some point. If some of the wolves have a history of suspecting me then they will look good if I get scried and revealed. And if I don't get scried, the evidence is far too flimsy to build a real case on.

2. The thing werewolves want to avoid the most is noticeably acting to save another werewolf. If the werewolves are revealed, the game is over.
Any theory that runs on the lines of "Well why haven't the wolves acted to save him?" is probably because the wolves will, and indeed have to, let each other be lynched if it is going to create an obvious pattern to do otherwise.

The werewolves almost never act in unison. At least one werewolf should be on either side of any two sided vote.

In werewolf 1, the only time the wolves really acted in concert to save a werewolf from a lynch was on the very last day, when it was a game winning chance.

3. Having said that, a werewolf will often join a lynch on another werewolf with provisos. Reservations. Leaving themselves a backdoor to change in case of a new argument or a shift in opinion, and hopefully influencing a few villagers away from the lynch.

4. Most of the time, the wolves do not enact a cunning plan. Because any cunning plan is inherently risky. This is especially true when the seer is still in play. The possibility is there, but in most cases it doesn't happen.

5. Werewolves will often have annoyingly good voting records. They know all the answers, and they are taking care not get caught. Be suspicious of anyone who has voted for the right wagon every single time.

6. If they can get away with it, werewolves will obey village authority figures readily. Bandwagons are the easiest place to hide.

7. The amount of arguments you bring to the table really don't have much to do with whether or not you are a wolf. Silent does not equal wolfish. Noisy does not equal villager.

8. Similarly, werewolves don't really defend themselves more vigorously than another player would in most cases. Nobody wants to be lynched.

9. Voting for a third candidate in a two horse race is a typical werewolf trick, to split the werewolf vote for less obviousness, to tacitly favour one candidate or to build suspicion on someone for later.

10. Werewolves need to get a certain number of incorrect lynches to win. Building up a candidate for suspicion over several days can work to make sure that there is a general aura of mistrust over certain people.
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Kyan Wrote:-Selrahc has known villagers approach him and ask for confirmation which he ignored.

That's not true. huh

The only person who asked me anything related to the seer by PM was luddite. That wasn't asking me if I was the seer, and it wasn't ignored.

So.. Kyan is lying here, but I honestly can't really see why.
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I guess Mr. Nice Guy is playing seer for Roland. If so, nicely played lol
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Selrahc we need your vote on who the new mayor is. lol
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The villagers are really getting on each others' nerves now. Interesting to watch. With players being killed off, the game's starting to be lurkable again.

Paradoxical that the village is doing so well and at the same time acting like a dysfunctional family.
I have to run.
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