Played the save. Hopefully it's all working now. Suboptimal is up.
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CIV VI PBEM
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Got it, everything's working fine (except my PYDT client likes to crash while waiting for a save). Woden is up.
Sending units to their death since 2017.
Don't do what I did: PBEM 3 - Arabia , PBEM 6 - Australia This worked well enough: PBEM 10 - Aztecs Gamus Interruptus: PBEM 14 - Indonesia Gathering Storm Meanderings: PBEM 15 - Gorgo You Say Pítati, I Say Potato: PBEM 17 - Nubia The Last of the Summer Wine: PBEM 18 - Eleanor/England Rhymin' Simon: PBEM 20 - Indonesia (Team w/ China)
I was going back to see what rules we established and it looks like the discussion got hijacked trying to figure out who was going to play. So, I just want to confirm them before we get to far, so everybody is on the same page. As far as I can tell, the only rules that were brought up were:
1. No Venetian Arsenal 2. No Religious Settlements pantheon 3. No pillage farming city-states. Was there anything else? Is everybody cool with these rules?
I asked a couple times when it became a possibility that I join this game, and noted down the following in my thread:
Bans: - Venetian Arsenal (no more overflow tricks but 2x ship production is broken on everything other than Pangea and it doesn't make sense to unban them for just that) - Maori (mess up map generation, expect for a land-only map, and doesn't make sense to unban them for that) - Religious Settlements Pantheon - Nan Madol (should be +1 culture so this is just another 2x problem like Scythia and VA) - No pillaging CS except for farms and fishing boats. (pillage-farming. no science but can get insane gold). - No pillage farming of city states (if you pillage, you must conquer). Don't care if we stick with just health pillaging, just don't want the pillage, let them heal, pillage again gameplay. Nan Madol and Maori are already a given so I would say your list is correct. That being sad Ioan76 already asked me how come Religious Settlements (free settler) is banned but Fertility Rites (Free Builder) is not. From my point of view we can stick with above ban list but it would be great to learn about the reasoning for this decision.
Free settler is about worth 2 free builders. So I banned free settler for being yet another 2x problem.
(June 6th, 2020, 02:30)Kaiser Wrote: That being sad Ioan76 already asked me how come Religious Settlements (free settler) is banned but Fertility Rites (Free Builder) is not. A builder is not as big of a deal as a settler. If give the right start, you could have 3 cities before anybody has 2 with Religious Settlements. No other pantheon is really equivalent in starting the snowball. As for the builder, you save 6 or 7 turns of production or 200  . It helps you develop quicker but it is still roughly equivalent in power to many of the other pantheons and having a few early improvements doesn't quite have the impact as having an addition city.
Thanks for the feedback, I assumed something along these lines.
Other pantheons actually yield likely more during the course of a game (for example God of the open sky or Goddess of the hunt) but the builder is more flexible Nd can help achieving Inspirations and Eurekas. (June 5th, 2020, 18:21)Woden Wrote: I was going back to see what rules we established and it looks like the discussion got hijacked trying to figure out who was going to play. So, I just want to confirm them before we get to far, so everybody is on the same page. As far as I can tell, the only rules that were brought up were: Seems good to me. |
