WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Gold Ergo Sum]

Omar displeased.

RIP, Talking Dog. This seems like an appropriate epitaph.

“The universe is a cruel, uncaring void. The key to being happy isn't a search for meaning. It's to keep yourself busy with unimportant nonsense, and eventually you'll be dead.”
— Mr. Peanutbutter, BoJack Horseman

[Kaiser]

BTW while this vote had no relevance for the result of the lynch it was a reaction to

@sunrise Can you entertain the thought that Gaspar is town and Meiz is scum? Who would be the other scum then in your opinion?

You are the highest contender, as the other person jumping quickly on the bob train to save Meiz

Lets see D4. 6 people are happily voting Kaiser. Then I switch from Kaiser to Meiz making it 5:5 which agin triggers the Meiz to Bob and so train. So in Kaiser's brain Scum Rowain switched from Kaiser to  scum Meiz who then switched to scum Bob taking scum Rowain with him to lynch scum Bob because it is too easy to simply lynch Kaiser   . Sorry you are either scum trying his best to saw confusion or a villager who should have chosen Patrick Star as his Hero. 

Asking hypothetical questions again and then jump quickly on the person answering? I am not sure if this is a good scum hunting strategy but I believe you did it often and I was often not convinced on your decision to jump on the person.
At least it gets the people to defend, I guess.

So let us entertain the idea of Meiz/Rowain/Bob scum, all 3 of you are already on Kaiser in a 6 Kaiser, 4 Meiz scenario. I think I already stated that I believe Meiz to be GrandMaMeiz Uberwolf, and this scenario features him as a wolf.
Then Kaiser comes up with a solid argument on why he is no wolf (at least I believe it solid enough to even convince Meiz/GrandMaMeiz) that it will convince the other town players.
So what would wolf team Meiz/Rowain/Bob do now that the Kaiser mislynch will probably not go off, GrandMaMeiz is still in danger with 4/10 votes on him.
They can either try to push heavy for a townie completely new on the lynch list at that moment, having to risk their heads heavily when switching from Kaiser to a later lynched townie.
Alternatively they can set up a wolf lynch on Bob (as the wolf who has already used at most of his still useful powers) to get town credit. They could try to really ride that horse hard, by letting Rowain first switch to Meiz bringing Meiz to top lynch candidate, not only giving Meiz more credit for pulling the Bob lynch but also positioning Rowain even deeper in town terrain as you correctly pointed out.

You were asking a hypothetical question (not to me btw, curious that I bothered to answer, no?) and got a hypothetical answer. I believe this scenario is as far fetched as I can come up with, but I found it important to point out that there is a scenario where Meiz/Rowain can be scum.
I do believe you more town by now though and so this remains a hypothetical scenario.

My D2 hurt me... where I was one of the cheerleaders for the scum lynch?

Talk about moving goalposts, I championed a scum lynch, I voted a villager because of that scum lean. On D4 I helped a scum lynch achieve critical mass. What do I have to do besides hang to prove I'm helping the village.

Its ridiculous.

Proove that Meiz is not

The only way a villager can prove another player is a villager is by lynching him. So what Kaiser asks here is that Gaspar has to lynch Meiz to prove that he Gaspar is a villager.

Granted, I was a bit snappy here in connection with my post on Gaspar. I should have formulated this better as he can actually only proove it by lynching. I should have said "convince me" instead.

However, I just started to think about more possible Gaspar/X scum combinations and I might have been too quick in my post to state that this is the only combination I see.
I need to re-evaluate this as I believe Meiz and Gaspar going so hard on Sunrise today makes them both look very scummy, but there likely are more possibilities and Jabbz with his late vote is something I am going to look into.
I do not to have in mind who else pushed hard for a Sunrise lynch but these two I remember being hard on the case.

[Rowain]

BTW while this vote had no relevance for the result of the lynch it was a reaction to

@sunrise Can you entertain the thought that Gaspar is town and Meiz is scum? Who would be the other scum then in your opinion?

You are the highest contender, as the other person jumping quickly on the bob train to save Meiz

Lets see D4. 6 people are happily voting Kaiser. Then I switch from Kaiser to Meiz making it 5:5 which agin triggers the Meiz to Bob and so train. So in Kaiser's brain Scum Rowain switched from Kaiser to  scum Meiz who then switched to scum Bob taking scum Rowain with him to lynch scum Bob because it is too easy to simply lynch Kaiser   . Sorry you are either scum trying his best to saw confusion or a villager who should have chosen Patrick Star as his Hero. 

Asking hypothetical questions again and then jump quickly on the person answering? I am not sure if this is a good scum hunting strategy but I believe you did it often and I was often not convinced on your decision to jump on the person.
At least it gets the people to defend, I guess.

So let us entertain the idea of Meiz/Rowain/Bob scum, all 3 of you are already on Kaiser in a 6 Kaiser, 4 Meiz scenario. I think I already stated that I believe Meiz to be GrandMaMeiz Uberwolf, and this scenario features him as a wolf.
Then Kaiser comes up with a solid argument on why he is no wolf (at least I believe it solid enough to even convince Meiz/GrandMaMeiz) that it will convince the other town players.
So what would wolf team Meiz/Rowain/Bob do now that the Kaiser mislynch will probably not go off, GrandMaMeiz is still in danger with 4/10 votes on him.
They can either try to push heavy for a townie completely new on the lynch list at that moment, having to risk their heads heavily when switching from Kaiser to a later lynched townie.
Alternatively they can set up a wolf lynch on Bob (as the wolf who has already used at most of his still useful powers) to get town credit. They could try to really ride that horse hard, by letting Rowain first switch to Meiz bringing Meiz to top lynch candidate, not only giving Meiz more credit for pulling the Bob lynch but also positioning Rowain even deeper in town terrain as you correctly pointed out.

You were asking a hypothetical question (not to me btw, curious that I bothered to answer, no?) and got a hypothetical answer. I believe this scenario is as far fetched as I can come up with, but I found it important to point out that there is a scenario where Meiz/Rowain can be scum.
I do believe you more town by now though and so this remains a hypothetical scenario.

I have no problem that you answer the question but a huge problem with your answer. There was no movement in the votes before the Bob train. None of the other players were going to switch from you without me moving off you and Meiz starting the Bob train.
My switch did not bring Meiz to top lynch. As both you and Meiz had 5 votes then with you being the one getting killed by tiebreak. It was Meiz moving from you to Bob that really brought Meiz on top and with out pindicators switch he would be dead.
Of course you can now question why did Meiz that risky move hoping to get enough votes on Bob to survive.

[Alhambram]

Just back from long day at job, not feeling 100% healthly yet, thankfully now 24 hours night doing nothing WW related, really need much needed rest.

GG Sunrise, I am really sorry about this. And I know for sure that it is townie-townie neighbor combination.

Tomorrow new another day and lylo day, all that I can say is that I am trying do my best to help town win, but it always turns out be wrong for town except vote for Commodore who was acting fishy whole time.

[BRickAstley]

Rowain was eliminated. He was a Hero 1-shot Vigilante

Uncle Iroh
Welcome to WW48! You are a Hero 1-Shot Vigilante.

You have done everything you can to train Zuko up well, to use wisdom in all situations. But sometimes, you must breathe your fire to accomplish what must be done.

You have the following active ability:
Vigilante: Once this game, you may target a player at night. Assuming no interference with your action, you will kill that player.

You win if all threats to the town are eliminated and at least one town-aligned player is alive.
Confirm by replying to this PM with a summary of your role.

Day 6 Begins.

[Rowain]

Good Luck village

[Meiz]

Really well played Rowain

[Kaiser]

Gg Rowain, we had our gripes during the game but you were one of the more pushing players.

I believe it to be Day6

[Jabbz]

GG Rowain. Now my paranoia can rest a bit.

[Gaspar]

GG Rowain. Maybe the best town game I've seen you play.

Gaspar, Meiz, Alhambram, Omar, Jabbz, Kaiser?

So assuming 2 scum this is LyLo?

Kaiser