December 20th, 2020, 20:15
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(December 20th, 2020, 20:01)pindicator Wrote: Yes that is plains jungle. And while I can't say what other people have I can assure you these starts are balanced.
I absolutely believe you  I just wanted to get a start on my map bitching.
I should say that I don't mind difficult starts - I like the challenge, though I tend to screw them up.
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December 20th, 2020, 22:34
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I think that plains jungle can't spread, because I don't think jungle can spread to plains, so that helps.
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December 20th, 2020, 22:51
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That is correct, jungle will not spread to plains
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December 20th, 2020, 22:53
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December 20th, 2020, 23:36
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If it's greece, it would be because I feel like I need an early UU to offset having a slow starting leader like fin/org. I havent' really thought it through closer than that.
Rome and Khmer are reasonably early. I dunno - needs some thinking
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December 21st, 2020, 00:17
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(December 20th, 2020, 15:48)AutomatedTeller Wrote: Also, OOTS rocks!!! To the amount that I shall use them as my naming convention!! My cap shall be Roy!!
I am so very jealous that I never thought of using OOTS as a naming convention before!
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December 21st, 2020, 09:36
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So, this is going to be a fairly big map, with no barbs, so it's not critical that I have a strong defense immediately. of these:
ishing/mining
Carthage - ok UB, meh UU
England - decent UU, decent UB, both kind of late
Portugal - junk UB, meh UU.
Rome - good UU, decent UB.
Fishing/Hunting
Greece - useful UU, meh UB
Vikings - awesome UU, useful UB
Hunting/Mining
Ethiopia - ok UU, meh UB
Germany - good UU, good UB, kind of late
Khmer - good UU, meh UB
Russia - decent UU, meh UB, kind of late
Dropping the later civs gives Greece, Rome, Khmer and Vikings. Feels like a ranked choice would be:
Rome
Khmer
Vikings
Greece
vikings might be #2. Berserkers get amphibious, which is what they are known for, but they also get 10% attacking cities, which is pretty big. But they require a lot of tech.
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December 21st, 2020, 10:17
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So, Fin/Org seems to make sense, based on the start, but it's WAY slow starting.
Org is nice if the game is going to on a long time or if there's a ton of coastal cities. But Fin/Exp or Fin/Imp will be better for expansion. Fin/cre or even fin/cha (gets cheap monuments) or fin/ind (for cheap stonehenge) might be better. Fin/Cha has the advantage of more happy for 3-0-3 lighthouse lake tiles.
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December 21st, 2020, 11:33
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Course, I could just go for fun:
Cyrus of Mongolia. Expand to 4 or 5 really nice city sites and, around turn 50 or 60, send out a pack of 2 promo Keshik from the cheap 4 xp GER
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December 21st, 2020, 11:57
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Im playing that on PB54 and its really fun
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