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WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

(October 19th, 2020, 14:30)Jabbz Wrote: Omar could you paraphrase your Simpscum case for me? So far I've only really caught your Scumator one.

I discussed this mainly D6.

What was the "no lynch" vote D1?

D4 his vote on Skelly makes no sense, because three posts before his vote, he has Skelly as a villager.

It does not make sense for Doc and Omar to back-to-back vote Jerry! on D4 and bus him when Skelly almost certainly goes down and the game goes to three days of lylo if Doc and Omar do nothing. Whereas with Simp, he was already voting Skelly, so Doc could try to gain future village-cred by following onto to Jerry! without any real fear that Jerry would go down with Simp already on Skelly. It is still a questionable play, but way less so than Omar and Doc lynching Jerry! for no reason.

On D5, if either you or Omar were Doc's villain teammate, why would we wait and leave the strong possibility that the other one of us moves the lynch from tiebreak Talking Dog to sure Doc lynch?
That's how Omar felt he could be confident you were not a villain--the end of day would just be a clear misplay.

On D6, Simp waited until the battle lines were drawn to reluctantly vote Doc, and then moved off to try and create some kind of movement that would allow for late vote shenanigans. This would be a very bad play for a villager, especially leaving the vote 3-1-2 so that there had to be a villager on the block. Skelly argues Simp could have easily voted with you and I and made it 4-2, but I think that would have been a very obvious tell, and I would have jumped to Doc in that scenario and tried to convince you to do the same. Omar took a water break to check the thread to ensure Simp had not moved to Robot yet (and missed your vote move due to a cross-post), so that Omar could move if necessary.

For which person does that series of plays make more sense as a villain?

And also, Microsoft Paint FFS.
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I do see some resemblance between them in drawing. wink

Back then day 1 I thought that voting no lynch is okay thing to do in WW, but later others explained why it is anti-town and I do see my day 1 no-lynch refered sometimes at later days and even right now!
A lesson for me to not do it again at next WW.

At day 4, when I made re-evaluation, I mentioned at Meiz part that I has yet to look into his claim of role taken away. Also said that lean town for now till I dive more into his claim of role taken away.
After finishing re-evaluation of players, I looked into Kaiser vs Meiz more which took me little less than 3 hours and voted for Meiz for reasons explained at post #1486.

About voting at Bob: at least 2 wolves did bus Commodore already, then why not again do it with other teammate. I stayed at Meiz for reasons as stated at #1486.
What nobody did expect was that Pindicator did switch to Bob. If Gaspar or GES did switch to Meiz after Pindicator's switch, they would be lynched at day 5.

Day 5 I was only interested in Sunrise who I thought ot be likely a wolf, although I was already apologzing in case that he was townie after all. I wanted settle neighbor feud while still having mislynch left. I was worried by some others mentioning that either Sunrise or me would be a wolf. I was worried if wolves allowed Sunrise and me alive at lylo day, wolves would push hard that one of us had be a wolf and set up mislynch to seal the victory.

Day 6, after voting for Jabbz due his timing of PM, I waited till Meiz tested whether he did lose power or not. Then I voted Gaspar but I was paniced because Kaiser got tiebreak and would be lynched at that rate. That moment I felt that I had to do something and pushed case against you. Thankfully Jabbz did switch to Gaspar. But speculations by Meiz and Kaiser that Jabbz and Gaspar might switch to you if both of them were wolves got me worried, hence waiting till last moment to switch to Jabbz who I did consider possible wolf at that moment. But when Brick announced that Gaspar was a wolf and Jabbz's switch proved to be curcial one, I believed Jabbz as a townie from that moment.


And GES, I did ask you a question before and you didn't answered it.
You did announce your usage of tracker power at N3.

But why didn't you do it at night 1 (tracking Novice) and night 4 (tracking me)? Also why didn't you leave some breadcrumbs for town in both cases beforehand which would be helpful for village if you got nightkilled or lynched?
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(October 19th, 2020, 15:52)Alhambram Wrote: But why didn't you do it at night 1 (tracking Novice) and night 4 (tracking me)? Also why didn't you leave some breadcrumbs for town in both cases beforehand which would be helpful for village if you got nightkilled or lynched?

Well, frankly, the leaving breadcrumbs thing is just not something that ever really occurred to Omar. Omar didn't figure who he tracked could be useful in the absence of the actual information. Omar also just not really one for leaving a trail. Never cared much for Hansel & Gretel to be honest, and on the streets, that likely to get you got.

Why was N3 different? Omar figured there was a zero chance of being night-killed N1 given the heat on him from Patsy and others and the sheer number of options to be killed. Omar also figured if somehow CIA became a lynch target, he could lie test him on whether he used an ability that night. N3 Omar did think he was a very likely night kill, so he was getting his thoughts out there. As for N4, Omar just too busy in RL to care about posting before deadline. Or posting period that day, really.
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Well, since this is going nowhere and the village is going to lose, Omar figure it’s time to save us at the eleventh hour and vote the real villain.

Weeb Fox
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Heh. Nice.
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Who is the cow Omar is pointign his gun at? Weeb Fox?
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I think that's supposed to be a weird skeletor, with scum horns. Not sure though.
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OBLITERATE: GOLD ERGO SUM

lol

To be frank, I don't see myself switching to vote Alhambram today. I know Omar has better votign record (and so did Gaspar), but I don't see a scum in the way he has played this game. The happenings on yesterday gave me a very strong inkling of Gaspar & GES beign together and shooting for the wolf win.
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(October 19th, 2020, 23:28)Jabbz Wrote: I think that's supposed to be a weird skeletor, with scum horns. Not sure though.

How was that not obvious?  Obviously Skelly is a villain, being needlessly obtuse. 

But seriously. Vote Weeb Fox 2020. You know it’s the right thing to do. The truth will set you free.
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