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Serdoa Wrote:I'd like to hear your reasoning when you are back from work Roland. I am pretty set on Jkaen being a wolf but I am willing to vote with you (and Ichabod - and therefore subsequently Rowain) for Lewwyn if you are really sure that this won't be another villager lynch - well, as sure as you can be as a villager of course.
Serdoa Wrote:I wonder only, what has happened if we had lynched Lewwyn that day and he is indeed a wolf? Bruindane would obviously have been under heavy suspicion. Sticking his head out like this seems pretty risky.
Additionally, I know that from Lewwyns list 2 people are innocent. PB and myself. Now, if he is a wolf we would know that as soon as he dies. Why would he name innocents as his suspects? Either we suspect those players (because we think they are wolves and he tried to give them some cover) or we feel they are innocent (because they were named by a wolf). The first one would obviously be great for the wolves but I feel we all would rather tend to the second option. So probably he has mixed at least one wolf into that list, hoping that he either gains cover or will take at least some villagers with him. And he conveniently put the innocents at the top and the end of the list, so that we can get to start on them, no matter from which side we begin. Or all are innocent and I have to give up on Jkaen :/
Anyway, I will give Jkaen another day - but if Lewwyn is not a wolf then I hope we use our last lynch to go for Jkaen!
Lewwyn
Serdoa, where are you to pick over my theories and give your insight? I was looking forward to hearing an expansion upon your thoughts, brief though they may be. I'm willing to switch off Lewwyn if anyone finds someone better - as I said, I'm not blind - but I'm hesitant to wade chest-deep into the Meiz / Jkaen turmoil right off. However, if there's enough support I'll certainly go for one of the two - although you know my preference is Meiz, at the moment.
Ichabod, I know you've given a fair amount of your thoughts, but I'd certainly appreciate some more. You've had a pretty keen insight thus far. What more do you feel about Lewwyn? How do you feel about other potential suspects?
For that matter, how does anyone feel? Discussion is still vital, even at this critical stage - perhaps more now than ever. It would be unwise to hang all our bets on the wisdom (or lack thereof) of one man - and I'm far from having a perfect, or even good, voting record. I'm not losing my spine against Lewwyn - I just don't want people to shrink away from posting their own thoughts.
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Roland Wrote:You're making this personal, and it's not.
I'm not making this personal. Dude, I'm just trying to have fun. YOU"RE taking it personal. I keep tweaking you and you're flipping out again! It's like a little switch!
Roland Wrote:By all means, Lewwyn, post your own theories and suspects. Bring something more substantial to the table than "It's Opposite Day! Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!" You brought much of this on yourself, with your erratic behavior. The rest... well, the rest explains itself. We'll find out one way or another whether it stands on its own or not. Your "defense" that you've presented thus far is so easily cast by a 'Wolf it's hard not to dismiss it outright. You know as well as I do that all you need to do is misdirect one lynch, and our chances of winning as a Village go from hopeful to dismal. With your history, you can hardly be considered very credible, even more so now that you're under such heavy suspicion. The fact that no one is defending you means nothing. Look at WW2! Serdoa's switch BLATANTLY revealed all the remaining 'Wolves precisely because they tried to defend scooter - a 'Wolf. Do you really think they're going to risk their whole game when they're so close to winning?
2 things. On the day that I played opposite day I was trying to rid myself of a bad vibe. Also I wasn't sure who to vote for. We had F&I and MNG on the table at the end. I was leaning more towards F&I being a wolf at that point and I was leaning toward MNG being innocent. I wanted to see if my intuition was really so off, and I had no proof that MNG wasn't an innocent.
Second, now that I've said it, someone will probably come to my defense and they will be a wolf. Then when I'm lynched they will say see I believed his defense. But now that I say that then people will point that out so they won't. Do you see the circles Roland? Wolves will continue to adapt, but to do that they need to be watching. They can't always be the first on the scene.
Roland Wrote:I don't know that I'm right - that's the difference between you and I. You were so convinced I was a 'Wolf that it didn't matter what the end result was: you were, and are, proud of what you did. I'm not out for vengeance. I'm out for victory. Lynching you looks to be the surest bet, but at least I leave open the possibility - perhaps strong - that I am wrong. What would you prefer? A blind shot on Jkaen, Meiz, or Mardoc - any of which have almost equal chances of being right or wrong? Or perhaps we reverse things, and lynch scooter - maybe that will go even further to proving you're a 'Wolf? Tell me, if you see how wrong I am, just what is RIGHT?
I only see how wrong you are because I'm innocent... I said dead wrong because if you lynch me you're putting another nail in the coffin. I don't know what else you could be if I am a villager. Wrong is wrong that's all there is to it Roland.
I believe wholeheartedly that GES is a wolf. He's played it well gotten lucky with vacationing and then he's played it all off very well. You want proof? There is no proof ever in this game beyond a seer's word.
I'm not opposed to being wrong Roland. Have you seen my suspect lists? I post one each Day about. It changes. But if you average all my lists, GES is on there the most with zakalwe. Jkaen I think may be a wolf based on his comments after the lynch. Mardoc... enigma. I don't KNOW jack shit Roland never claimed to. The only thing I know is that Ichabod and you are innocent. It's why I wanted the masons to reveal so that I had a better lay of the land about who to suspect. I kept going back and forth on novice, half the time I suspected him, the other half I didn't. He played it to close to the vest for me to trust him.
Roland Wrote:You're all bluster and little substance, Lewwyn. If you're serious about saving the Village and churning out a victory, do something to achieve it. Just remember: you've been convinced I was a 'Wolf since the beginning - and I'm a proven Mason. How right are you going to be in your other convictions?
Dude, You cannot say that I've suspected you. I have actually believed you to be innocent nearly this entire time. Pretty much anytime I've said anything about lynching you has been in jest, except for the very first (and only time) I voted for you. I wanted to see what you would do. Your reaction convinced me you were innocent and I never voted for you again. I think I put you on the suspect list one of other time after the F&I thing. The only time I was suspicious was the F&I thing but even then I didn't press it.
I'm actually quite thrilled to be on the spot. Gets my adrenaline going. That's what I signed up for this game for. Don't take it or make it personal Roland. But I will laugh, hard, if I'm lynched.
BTW its tremendously ironic that you were a mason with PMs in a game that you thought you could take a break in. I'm sorry that you got saddled with a more time consuming job (I see you up at 3-4 AM again) and I hope your heart doesn't break when you lynch me.
I do think the next day and a half will show just how emotional you are about this. I don't intend to be nice about it. I won't say at the end, "It's okay, how could you have known I was a villager?"
I do wish novice had a chance to state that post he said that cleared me completely. He said that back on Day 3 or 2. Just tell me did you ever discuss me with him? Or is this solely your opinion?
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Man the irony of this day is killing me. Lurkers I hope you appreciate this.
I want to devote a little of this post to addressing my Day 1 actions that seem to be the most damning in Roland's eyes.
I had a goal, lynch MJW. I achieved said goal. My other goals in this game were to survive and win. I realize that may sound like a WW because the only way a wolf wins is by surviving, though I also believe I lose if I'm killed even if the villagers side wins. And as a side note, I act a bit erratic on purpose. The best way to survive is to be suspected by some people so that the wolves don't perceive you as a threat and kill you in the night. Chalk one up for me! seems I did that just a little too well.
Now MJW, go back and read Irgy's post on the matter. I agree with it wholeheartedly. Even if MJW had survived he would have caused trouble as a lightning rod. No one would be truly able to get over some of HIS erratic behavior.
During the day I drew fire for the MJW push. I didn't want to be a martyr for the cause of lynching MJW! I backed off. I hoped that there was already enough momentum to take him out. Needless to say I needed to make the final push, but really I was just lucky to be in that situation. It was terribly fun and even if in the end it gets me killed, I do not regret it.
Another note, I don't usually feel to terrible about lynching villagers, its part of the game. Maybe that's one of the reasons I'm a little nonchalant about my own impending demise.
So anyway. There was no proof that MJW wasn't a wolf. There was also no proof that Cull was a wolf. Everyone was still happily trying to lynch him too! Its terribly unfortunate but I believe that for the most part villagers want their vote to mean something. They want to be part of the bandwagon for someone on the block. You need to go back and look at those people who weren't in the main groups, those who were on a single target maybe? Jkaen maybe? Its not fool proof, but its somewhat logical, the "I'm voting for the person I suspect most even if I'm the only one!" defense.
Also look again at all the MJW voters, alot of them have been killed by the wolves. Perhaps the wolves have been focusing in that direction in order to single out villagers left in that group that haven't died and must be wolves? Think about that too. Selrach died quick so having him on the MJW side makes it easier to say "There were 2 wolves on MJW, 2 wolves on Cull and 1 wolves elsewhere.
Also it is not a statistical impossibility for 6 villagers to be on the block and no wolves. Maybe the wolves decided that for the first round no wolf would vote to lynch another wolf. Another possibility.
I'm not saying all of these things are true. I'm saying these are possibilities you've dismissed. Maybe enough for reasonable doubt?
Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, this case brought against me is nothing but a sham! The evidence is at best circumstantial and nothing I have done can be proven to any degree to be signifying of any guilt! I have displayed the facts before you and shown how the my goals and actions fit with the reasoning I made on the day in question! You must throw this case out at once.
On a serious note, the above is just for fun. I agree that my actions are suspicious, but they are suspicious by design. Of course, I could always be perpetrating the great double blind, but I suppose you only have my word that I am not. That is the thing about walking the line between suspected and innocent. You have to be willing to give up your right to credibility.
Next I will outline my case against GES if no one has posted rebuttals while I wrote this.
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Oh and before I forget:
(Disclaimer: This picture and caption in no way insinuate that I am in fact as guilty as Nixon was, simply that I love him.)
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Lewwyn Wrote:I think GES is suspicious... He hasn't said much at all. And before you say he's been on vacation... what better excuse? Last game Sunrise was the seer and he was gone for a while. It's not impossible that RL events are masking wolfish hiding. Also, isn't he a lawyer? He hasn't talked anyone into or out of anything. He reminds me of Illios.
We should lynch GES or Jkaen tomorrow.
Not sure what to say on the vacation thing, other than if you want me to get really meta, I could post a picture of my lift ticket and my work calendar every day or something. Or maybe you think I am willing to sluff off on my admin duties in RBP4 just to create cover for this game? Instead, I just happened to be snowboarding, and dumb enough to grab my micro-USB charge cable, and not the plug-in.
As for not convincing anybody of anything, I refuse to talk people into stuff that I am not confident in myself. And so far, I haven't been confident of much of anything. I thought Ichabod and novice were the most likely villagers, but someone's idea of "deep cover" wolves made me even question that.
Lewwyn Wrote:Speak of the Devil! I cross-posted with him! But this is exactly the type of post that Illios used to hide himself. Plus he responded so quickly to Roland! definitely paying attention to the thread no?
True. Or I woke up in the morning and caught up on the thread before I had to go into work. I am pretty sure pretty much all my posts will be early am or late evening Pacific time, except on weekends.
Roland Wrote:As for being "sure" of anything, I think almost all of us (Villagers) feel about the same. It's difficult to be "sure" of anything, but sometimes things are more obvious than others.
About the only thing I felt "sure" of was that Lewwyn was a wolf early on, but once Cull was clearly a villager, I just didn't see it any longer.
Sareln Wrote:[COLOR="Red"]Novice was eaten!
Novice was a Mason.[/COLOR]
Well, shit.
Mardoc Wrote:I find it unfortunate that you're the other mason, Roland, since your posts overnight made me trust you completely anyway - I can't see any reason for a wolf to make it that easy to analyze the data.
Not surprised you are a mason, and I felt the same way. I was reasonably confident you were a villager anyway, so I was hoping someone else would be revealed.
My overall thoughts. The only thing I was convinced I had right and really tried to argue for in this game was Lewwyn being a wolf after the first couple days. But then it stopped making sense to me in the middle of Day 3(?). And he was actually one of the people I was pretty close to trusting. I thought he was a likely mason the past few days. Obviously, that was wrong. Maybe my initial thoughts were the correct ones and I let myself get distracted.
While driving this morning, I was thinking about how I would rank the village in terms of likely villager status, and I put it like this:
Villagers:
[COLOR="Navy"]1. Gold Ergo Sum
2. Ichabod[/COLOR]
Likely villagers:
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]3. Roland
4. novice
5. Lewwyn[/COLOR]
Possible wolves:
[COLOR="Magenta"]6. Serdoa
7. scooter
8. Mardoc[/COLOR]
Probably wolves:
[COLOR="Red"]9. Meiz
10. Zakalwe
11. Jkaen[/COLOR]
Maybe I am nuts, especially with Lewwyn trying to throw suspicion my way, but I still have other candidates I like better. The problem is, I cannot really verbalize why I feel that way without having far more time than I have to actually re-read the thread. It is just kind of the accumulated "gut" feeling I have about the players. But I would prefer to vote with the evidence. And your evidence is far more compelling than my gut--despite what Colbert would say. I am willing to follow you on this one Roland (especially if Ichabod agrees) since you are the only two people I am sure I can trust, and the more votes behind your theory there are, the less likely any wolf nonsense can take place. But I do tend to agree that wolves are likely at this point to avoid rocking the boat and just cast Lewwyn "to the wolves" so to speak as a lost cause.
There is another subject I would really like to discuss strategically with the village, but I am not sure it is a good idea in a no PM game. But I have a real fear about what is likely to happen tomorrow and don't really know how we should respond to it.
I'd like to see what happens overnight, but I will cast a vote in the morning before I leave for Los Angeles.
EDIT: I was about to cross post with Lewwyn's posts. I find nothing particularly interesting about either of them.
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Let us begin with the post count:
GES has the least amount of posts of all surviving players at 43 posts as of this posting.
He even has 10 posts less than Sareln who is not even playing, nor has he been posting a great deal beyond what has been necessary.
He has less posts than 4 dead players, one of which is bruindane who was modkilled for inactivity!
The next fewest posting live player is Mardoc who has more than 30 more posts than GES! And after him is scooter who only just breaks 100. So he's almost 60 posts behind the second living player.
Now I am not saying this makes him a wolf. I know that he has been on vacation. I also know he has said he doesn't have all that much time for this, that he was not expecting so much work when he signed up and so on and so forth. What I am saying is that half of the posts he does make are STATING this. They are apologies for not being as involved, but they have no actual bearing on the game.
I believe the easiest way to survive as a wolf is to be under the radar. How much more under the radar can you get than GES! Its simply not possible. We have nearly no idea where he's stood on just about anything in this game!
I am not saying that makes him a wolf, I'm saying that it could easily be a ploy. He's reading the thread right now! He posts when someone brings him up! He's Lurking and doing a damn good of of it! I commend him for his due diligence to staying under the radar!
Lets look at the posts that he has written. I will show any post with content and keep a tally of posts that are apologies, sidesteps, excuses and overall blatantly passing the buck. I want also to say that I do not believe that GES would have given this game as short a shrift as he SEEMS to have given this game if he were a villager. Everything I've seen from him screams responsibility and commitment. I believe that half of his apologies are TRUE apologies because he feels bad he is restraining himself from participating in order to stay under the radar. This is why his apologies feel so genuine, because they are.
There's probably a better way to do what I'm doing but whatever. If its too disorganized, lynch me.
Post 1 - Check in
Post 2 - Sandover vote for PBEM destruction
Post 3 -
Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:Very interesting read so far, but I don't want to act like I am some kind of WW savant, because my brain is mostly running in circles.
Someone earlier commented on humans being perhaps too good at pattern recognition, which struck me as quite apropos.
I do agree that the run on Lewwyn was pretty suspicious. But would the wolves really risk a move that coordinated on day 1? What has the past history in WW1 and WW2 shown in that regard?
Mentions suspicions of me(ironically, and I am aware he doesn't suspect me now). But again not much here in terms of opinions on other people. Chalk another "I'm still here following along, but don't mind me posts." These are what set off alarms for me on Day 1.
Post 4 -
Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:Checking in for my twice daily post.
That is my understanding of how the seer/fool scries work. Is that the understanding of everyone else?
It looks like we might be headed towards a tie vote for the mayor to decide. That could be interesting.
I still don't have any real gut feelings about any of this. I am headed to bed soon since I have to be in LA for a 9am deposition tomorrow. The voting ends at 9am, so I hope I have time to catch up on the thread by then.
It seems to me that if the voting is close and someone gets lynched by a vote or two and that person turns out to be a villager, I guess the list of people who voted for the lynched villager is our first potential hard evidence to work from. I also suppose the 1-2 players who narrowly miss being lynched could also be suspects in that scenario.
Everything's so interesting! No opinions, following along, don't shoot me. Follows the same MO as the previous post.
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:Checking in for my twice daily post.
That is my understanding of how the seer/fool scries work. Is that the understanding of everyone else?
It looks like we might be headed towards a tie vote for the mayor to decide. That could be interesting.
I still don't have any real gut feelings about any of this. I am headed to bed soon since I have to be in LA for a 9am deposition tomorrow. The voting ends at 9am, so I hope I have time to catch up on the thread by then.
It seems to me that if the voting is close and someone gets lynched by a vote or two and that person turns out to be a villager, I guess the list of people who voted for the lynched villager is our first potential hard evidence to work from. I also suppose the 1-2 players who narrowly miss being lynched could also be suspects in that scenario.
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:I'm a lawyer in real life.
Checking in now that I am back in town, and then I am headed back to the office.
So far the only hard evidence I see is the initial votes.
The run on Cull was really the only thing I've seen that stood out to me as strange. These individuals voted in that run in this order: Lewwyn, Roland, uberfish, sandover, Mardoc, scooter.
Lewwyn started the initial vote on Cull. And then took it off once someone else voted for Cull. Then returned it when it appeared safe at only one vote. But then when it looked like Cull could really be lynched, he switched his vote to MJW, who was a villager.
My interpretation is that Lewwyn switched off Cull, who he started the suspicion of for future cover, only when it became clear Cull could be lynched. By voting for Cull if he was later lynched as a wolf, Lewwyn would gain cover. But once it looked like Cull, his packmate, might be lynched, Lewwyn switched.
None of this is revelatory by any means, but it does seem to me to be the only tangibly strange behavior that rises above general gut feelings so far.
Who knows, maybe both Lewwyn and Cull are villagers and it was just a strange coincidence. But that is about all I have to go on so far.
I'll try to check back in before bed.
Checking in, his interpretation of what went down with the MJW vote.
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:I'm headed to bed soon.
If I am still alive come morning, I expect to be in office tomorrow, so hopefully I can find the time to actually stay caught up on the thread as the day proceeds, instead of signing on and finding 100 posts waiting for me.
Although, it seems like I didn't miss much other than several players getting into a pissing contest of sorts. Is this what always happens during night fall? Fear of death putting us all on edge?
Or considering that only a handful of players were really involved in the conversation recently, I am a little suspicious of the squabbles that broke out. Perhaps a coordinated attempt for some wolves to distance themselves from each other? Given that the wolves have to be around to coordinate during the night period anyway, why not just hop on here for some misdirection?
Some commentary, another checking in post.
Post 8 - Checking in, small comment that a quote made sense to him.
Post 9 - Baner died post "Eek. In a no PM game, this just got very tough indeed."
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:If a low post count draws suspicion, I suppose I am always going to be suspicious then.
I cannot speak for anyone else, but RL is a bear for me. I will probably get in a couple extra posts today just because I am in front of the computer working on a trial brief, rather than out of the office at depositions or court hearings.
My patterns are pretty easy to discern. I tend to post in the mornings, maybe early evening, and before bedtime. That is on a good day. Really the one exception is when I end up having to get more involved in my administrative role in Pitboss 4.
We'll see whether weekends are any better for me. I have my doubts.
As for the game itself, I definitely think bringing in some new blood is the best idea to get more information, but I am not sure why Lewwyn is getting a free ride. Other than Bruindane's picture and Irgy's pronoun foul-up, I don't see much other hard evidence to go on.
He address that he will always be suspicious, and yes he will. But do you not think there is a possibility here that the regularity of his posts the nature of the way he checks in. Just pops in for a comment at a time is not suspicious? I believe it when he says he doesn't have as much time as I said before, but how can we not know he is using it to mask?
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:Man, with MJW gone, the pace of conversation has really slowed.
If Roland dies, this thread is going to become a ghost town.
Lewwyn has 45 posts, but has been remarkably silent of late. His play continues to be very strange to me.
Holy crap, Rowain has 50+ posts. I would've never guessed. He seems to be running pretty below the radar for such activity.
Under the radar
Post 12 - IMPORTANT ONE
Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:My lynch cherry was broken.
And just like that, I was whole again, but my innocence forever stolen.
That was a seriously huge post Mardoc. I am not sure I follow all your logic though. Several of the quotes you dug up struck me as fairly innocuous. That said, I agree with you that the whole run on Cull, and the response of Lewwyn remains the strangest thing to happen so far.
One thing that is bothering me, though, in terms of strategy, is how often (presumed) villagers are willing to point out strategies that help the wolves that they might not have noticed. I put together a post with some statistical analysis a little earlier and ended up choosing not to post it out of fear of providing advice to the wolves. At what point does being a little too clever in a post become a liability to the village?
This is the first time someone votes for GES. MNG votes for him. MNG is a villager. Why has no one voted for him before. This is probably the most important point: why haven't the wolves use GES as a red Herring before? Why has no wolf ever said we should lynch GES. Or said GES is suspicious? If he were a villager the wolves could easily, easily use him to divert attention. I believe the reason he has been left alone this long is because the wolves don't want to attract attention to him. Its easy for him to stay under the radar. Its easy for him to explain everything away because he's been explaining it away the entire game!
Post 13 - COmment on not reading because RL sports and drunkness
Post 14 - votes for Selrahc
Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:I fall so far behind, half the thouhgts I have about players are no longer relevant.
I don't see much evidence on anyone yet just a bunch of wild speclation.
I might had one too many beers for his stuff to make sense, but damn does roland talk a bunch. Prattle prattle prattle.
I stil Leywwn seem guilt. Only real evidence we have is his weird vote switch. But noone else votes for him.
Also, too many complaints about meta. We got wolfies to ctch. I don't care how.
I dont know if Ochabid is right, but I respect the effort. [COLOR="DarkRed"]Selrach
[/COLOR]
Fuck hillabillys from MOrehead St. I went there for Boys State one year. worst week ever.
Yay for switching to selrahc after Ichabod makes a good case. Way to pad the voting record.
Post 15 - CHecking in, letting us know he's way behind
Post 16 - First Substantial Post of the Game!! - Gotta keep up some appearances no?
Post 17 - Interesting post - he basically begins to agree with some of my points. Points that no one besides Roland were really listening too. Of course these points eventually proved false. I get the feeling he was getting on my side a bit? Or that the logic I was presenting actually did appeal to him, even moreso if I was helping lynch a villager.
Post 18 - Another Quote and comment Post I'm wary of these types of posts because they are so easy to do and then make it seem like the quoted posts are talking to each other. Again I don't miss the irony that I'm using quoted posts here, but I'm actually attempting to provide commentary about each post as I go!
Going to take a quick break and see if this will post. or if I need to break it up.
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Just saw GES's post that is actually thinking I'm innocent. The irony is killing today.
A comment on GES's list, I actually agree with a lot of what he puts there except for Meiz I would substitute GES
Still its interesting to me. I have no idea if GES is a wolf or not, but he's still suspicious to me. He's playing the misunderstood villager perfectly. The I can only do so much. His list nearly matches up with mine and its screwing with my head again. I just can't get over how perfect a cover and how under the radar he has been.
NO one has taken a shot at him. No one besides MNG and myself.
And if you think I'm a wolf trying to draw attention from myself, I could see that. I do think that GES could be using his knowledge as a wolf here though. He probably DOES have a wolf in his probable or likely wolves. He probably KNOWS I'm innocent so if I get lynched he can point back to this post.
I am aware of the circles, but at some point you have to stop circling and put your foot down. I choose to put it down on GES's neck.
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For what it's worth, I agree with your post against GES.
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Btw I'm also aware that by trying to get GES lynched I'm effectively forcing GES to vote for me to save himself, thereby alienating the one person who is attempting to defend me no matter how obliquely he is doing it. In essence I'm placing all my chips on the table here, going for broke. Then again, thats my style.
Have to run errands, do some work for students and dinner plans. I won't be able to finish my work on GES's posts until after all that and maybe not even tonight. Which is a shame because Post 20 is the one where he votes for me and then convinces himself I"m innocent.
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Lewwyn Wrote:If its too disorganized, lynch me.
I like your style.
Tally:
7v: Lewwyn ( Roland, Ichabod, Meiz, JKaen, Mardoc, Serdoa, Zakalwe )
1v: Gold Ergo Sum ( Lewwyn )
1v: Meiz ( Scooter )
Not voting: Gold Ergo Sum
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