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Realms Beyond Werewolf 2 : Game Thread

Sandover's claim frankly stinks of exactly what a wolf would do in the given situation. Wolves conspiring to a day 1 baner claim sounds like a ridiculous tactic to me, why draw attention to yourself so early? And even after that, it's then 6 times as likely that a wolf would end up on the chopping block than it is the real baner would. So I'd put the odds of Sandover being the false claim at well over 90% - without even having to examine the style of his posting or whatever else fed into Roland's wall of text. I will give credit where it's due though, Roland seems to have most likely backed a winner this time, lets just hope he can keep it up.

However, having said all that, even a < 10% chance of voting off the baner on day 1 is pretty high. And there's always the possibility of a fool-baner - it seems like a ridiculous role to me but that's almost evidence in its favour given the disparity between the rules I'd have picked and the ones we have. So I'd be inclined to leave it to tomorrow. But then who are the other options?

Sareln's suicidal self-vote points directly at villager to me. It reminds me a bit of the story of King Solomon and the disputed baby - no direct analogy but a similar spirit proving your innocence by offering yourself for sacrifice. I can't really see why a wolf would bother to pull such a risky play when one of their number would still be doomed and all Sareln had to do to get out of the limelight was post a bit more.

So I don't really want to put my vote there any more. A random shot at a second wolf is worthwhile, but a likely villager is bad news. Catching a wolf every second day means losing 3 villagers to every 1 wolf, and if you do the math that's a loss for the village. So there's a cost to leaving it another day, and when you combine that with the relative odds that Sandover is the faker here I think he's the better choice.

I'm still nervous though. I've changed my mind 3 times while writing this post. My apologies in advance if I've sealed the deal on a horrible path to failure here...
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Quote:Mayor:

6v: Selrahc (Sareln, sunrise089, Serdoa, haphazard, Cyneheard, Luddite)
4v: Sunrise089 (Ug, uberfish, Gaspar,Meiz)
2v: MJW ( Mr Nice Guy, Irgy)
3v: Roland (Dantski,scooter, Lewwyn)
Lewwyn (sandover)
Luddite (Kyan)

Changed Votes:
MJW from Dantsky to Luddite; MJW from Luddite to sunrise; MJW from sunrise to Selrahc; MJW from Selrahc to No vote;
Scooter from Selrahc to sunrise;
Scooter from Sunrise to Roland;
Rowain from Ug to MJW;Rowain from MJW to No vote
Meiz from Nice Guy to MJW; Meiz from MJW to sunrise;
Gaspar from Luddite to sunrise;
MrNice Guy from Selrahc to MJW;
Irgy from sunrise to MJW;
Roland from Selrahc to No Vote;

Not voted:, MJW, Selrahc, Roland, Rowain

Lynch:
7v: Sandover ( Kyan, , Lewwyn, Cyneheard, Luddite, MJW, Mr Nice Guy,IRGY)
6v: Sareln(Meiz,Dantski, scooter,Serdoa, Sareln,Selrahc)
3v: Lewwyn (haphazard, uberfish, Rowain)
2v: MJW (Ug,Gaspar)
Meiz (sandover)

Changed votes:
MJW from Selrahc to Dantsky; MJW from Dantsky to Rowain; MJW from Rowain --> Sandover
Kyan from Ug to Dantsky; Kyan from Dantsky to Sandover;
uberfish from Selrahc to Mr Nice Guy; Uberfish from Mr Nice Guy to Lewwyn;
Sandover from MJW to Rowain; sandover from Rowain to Meiz;
Gaspar from Kyan to Rowain; Gaspar from Rowain to sandover;Gaspar from sandover to MJW;

Irgy from MJW to Dantski; Irgy from Dantski to sandover
Meiz from MJW to no vote->sareln;
Mr Nice Guy from Ug to Rowain; From Rowain --> Sandover
Lewwyn from Rowain to sandover;
Cyneheard from Dantski to sandover;
Luddite from Dantski to Sandover;
Scooter from Dantski to Sareln;
Ug from MrNiceGuy to MJW;
Serdoa from Rowain to Sareln;
Sareln from Irgy to No-One; Sareln from No one to Sareln;
Roland from sandover to No Vote;
Rowain from sandover to Lewwyn;
Selrahc from Dantski to Sareln;

Not voted: sunrise, Roland
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What? I still don't get what you mean. He did only post the role PM for the villagers. I can't see anything for the Seer for example (or the Baner for that matter). So what do you mean? I really don't get you, I am sorry :/
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uberfish Wrote:@F&I: if we get a majority of "no votes" is there still a lynch?

I see no reason not to have a lynch

Gaspar Wrote:And, I think our GM didn't post the role PMs because he hadn't thought of it at the time. :P

Its true i did not think about it.

However is people arn't suposed to post pms from me any way so only people with the role should know the message.


BTW 17 min warning
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people arn't suposed to be posting pms from me.

Note: PMs will be placed on first post.
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Fire And Ice didn't even post up the villager role PM until I bugged him to do it, and that is a truly game breaking thing if exploited.

This means that it is less likely to be fool baner vs. baner, but doesn't tell us which of you would be faking. Of course maybe F&I just sent out different role PMs to each of you. I might well do that.

Quote:I see no reason not to have a lynch

If a majority of people vote for no lynch? Um.. okay. Takes an option off the table, but I'm of the opinion it's better to lynch every day anyway so I don't really mind.
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Serdoa Wrote:What? I still don't get what you mean. He did only post the role PM for the villagers. I can't see anything for the Seer for example (or the Baner for that matter). So what do you mean? I really don't get you, I am sorry :/

I thought that Sandover or I might be fool baner. Because the PMs' are the same I chould get rid of that by quoteing 2 words from my PM. If he where a fool he would know what has happend. But because he was a werewolf he did not know what the 2 words meant.
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fire&ice' Wrote:BTW 17 min warning

Btw. if you don't hear from me, I've had a heart attack! Maybe I'm taking this game too seriously...
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By the way, posting the contents of the role pms to clear yourself or for whatever reason is generally considered to be cheating. Which is why it's important to put it in the first post.
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From the first post at the bottom

forwarding emails/PMs/chats is prohibited in online play. Summarising them is OK (ie no copy/pasting).
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