WW16: The Outlaws and The Olives

[Meiz]

The forums are really sluggish again. About to go down or something?

Rowain, weren't you suspicious of Pind for most of the game and now a while back, http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....count=2374
Seems odd to vote Ichabod now over him, while probably missing the deadline.

Anyways, I'm off to bed, so this is my final vote.

[Meiz]

And yes, forum clock is about 4 minutes forward, at least for me.

[Meiz]

Take that back, pindicator

The fact that rowain would have reasons to vote Pind, but he still isn't. And I'm wary with both pind and selrahc votong rowain.

Now to sleep.

[novice]

Unofficial lynch Vote Count

Pindicator - 6 - Jkaen, Gaspar, Azza, Ichabod, Catwalk, Meiz
Rowain - 5 - novice, Pindicator, Selrahc, Twinkletoes89, Injera
Ichabod - 3 - Lewwyn, Waterbat, Rowain
Selrahc - 2 - Molach, tasunke

Players not voting: None

[novice]

Ok so since we're following the forum clock, day will actually end 20:56 GMT.

Vote Rowain. I prefer him to Pindi. Rowain fits as Gaspar's experienced wolf and has done a good job keeping himself out of the limelight.

It would be nice also to see if Selrahc and Pindi can finally catch a wolf.

[Catwalk]

Rowain's vote on Ichabod (rather than a self preservation vote on pindicator) is enough to make me look elsewhere. I suggest that we hang Ichabod or pindicator tonight.

[novice]

Rowain's vote on Ichabod (rather than a self preservation vote on pindicator) is enough to make me look elsewhere. I suggest that we hang Ichabod or pindicator tonight.

This day is day 2 all over. We've had those suspects on the block for days, and nothing has changed. It doesn't feel like anybody is trying to change the status quo, which makes me think they're villagers and wolves are sitting back watching us flail around.

[Gaspar]

Lack of a self-preservation vote isn't much of a tell, IMO. If you know you're innocent, self-preservation is inherently pro-town. So not doing it isn't somehow pro-town. Its null, since obviously scum will do it as well, and its also foolish to throw a vote that requires a wagon you can't put together.

Really the deciding factor for me is I feel like with two scummy but not definite scum candidates, Rowain flipping innocent doesn't change much in my mind while at least if Pindicator flips innocent we've removed a convenient patsy. I know I'll get "OMG YOU'RE SCUM" points for saying that if Pindi does turn out innocent, but I'm not playing to avoid suspicion.

[Gaspar]

This day is day 2 all over. We've had those suspects on the block for days, and nothing has changed. It doesn't feel like anybody is trying to change the status quo, which makes me think they're villagers and wolves are sitting back watching us flail around.

Alright, that's probably the best argument I've seen actually.

Rowain

[Catwalk]

Lack of a self-preservation vote isn't much of a tell, IMO. If you know you're innocent, self-preservation is inherently pro-town. So not doing it isn't somehow pro-town. Its null, since obviously scum will do it as well, and its also foolish to throw a vote that requires a wagon you can't put together.

While self preservation matters both for scum and for villagers, villagers have a dual objective: They also want to target a wolf. Whereas wolves just want to target a villager. I think it's a minor town tell, showing that Rowain is still going for the one he thinks is most likely to flip wolf, not just the one most likely to save him.

novice, do you think we had 3 villagers on the block when Sareln hung?