Codenames 38

[Azoth]

PHOENIX is Red

[shallow_thought]

I too would have expected Creature for KANGAROO + CENTAUR + PHOENIX. I'm pretty sure I've seen that used recently for similar combos. But maybe I'm being too picky? 

Meat would would indeed clue KANGAROO + PIE + HAM, but could it also have pulled SERVER into play; perhaps acceptable if that were grey, but not if it were black? So I still think PIE + HAM is possible.

If we think it's HAM + a creature, how do we weight CENTAUR v PHOENIX? How comfortable are people with "birds are animals" rather than the biblical (IIRC) division into "birds and beasts", compared to the CENTAURS definitely exactly half-ANIMAL nature? I could see someone going either way ...

Oh, and Pindicator's half-suggestion of "A KANGAROO is an Animal while a CENTAUR is a PART-animal" is now also gnawing at me; but I think it's less likely than the other two possibilities

I'd like to try HAM next, because if it's wrong I think we have an out with the pair of mythological beasties and an unlimited clue (assuming there's a nice 3-clue to finish the rest), whereas if we guess a critter and it's wrong we've still got three possibilities. I don't think it's PIE + a creature.

And T-Hawk has been decisive while I've been dithering and drafting; I don't blame him at all . This has not been a fast-paced game.

EDIT: I prefer HAM over CENTAUR now that we've seen PHOENIX. I like the "Animal is a steer away from part-human logic".

[pindicator]

I think if we were going Phoenix then my PART + CENTAUR theory is gone. HAM should be next.

[sunrise089]

Point to Ham

[JR4]

Ham is red

[sunrise089]

Pass

[JR4]

Valhalla unlimited

[Dark Savant]

DEATH would have been very strong for Valhalla too, but at least it's out of the way now.

Hmm:

• Valhalla is a place that's a COURT for einherjar.
  
• I guess einherjar might use BOWs.  I'm having a hard time seeing einherjar preferring them to battle axes or spears, but still a decent choice.
  
• Maybe Valhalla is also a CENTER for the einherjar to gather.
  
• Einherjar also drink lots of booze, right?  But there are no alcoholic drinks here.  Someone who is a SERVER of such drinks is the closest thing we've got here.
  

After that I guess it's back to COLD words?  We do have to keep guessing until we hit something not blue, no choice about it.

[DaveV]

COURT	BALL	MERCURY	BOW	PLASTIC
DEATH	WAVE	KANGAROO	ALPS	SHOE
ICE	CENTAUR	PHOENIX	NET	SERVER
SATELLITE	TAP	PART	NOTE	CENTER
ANTARCTICA	PIE	SATURN	CANADA	HAM

So all we need is seven. No problem.

Valhalla is the Norse heaven, I believe. The Valkyries carry you there.
And I've got nothing. BOW, maybe, although I thought the Valkyries were sword wielders.
Is there any more modern meaning involving the internet? Several words would be a good match for that.
Since HAM was red, that means PIE probably wasn't correct for cold, either.
Three left for cold: SATURN, SATELLITE, MERCURY, WAVE, TAP are the suggestions so far.

My pre-spoilers guesses: SATURN, WAVE, TAP, ????

[Lewwyn]

I like COURT for valhalla
MERCURY for both clues
NET or BOW as a weapon?
still like SATURN
CENTER feels good for both. cold center

I don't like TAP