Pindore and Commodicator are Closing towards Home

[Commodore]

What are those odd lumpy things? And that weird tan color? PB 53 has me forgetting...

[GeneralKilCavalry]

I expect one of your classic opponent write-ups - those are some of the funniest things i've read on this forum.

[Commodore]

I expect one of your classic opponent write-ups - those are some of the funniest things i've read on this forum.

I'll be sure to crank the insult levels. Thank you very very much for our deer.

[pindicator]

Well thanks to the deer we will get the first worker in 11 turns. Farm the wheat in 5, grow to 2 eot16, and then to 3 at eot20. Then its an 8t build for a settler.

Could also try a double worker start and then grow to 4. That would be worker 1 eot10, worker 2 eot19, grow to 2 eot24, size 3 on eot27, size 4 on eot30 and settler eot36. But I'm not sure about worker timing yet there

[Commodore]

Well thanks to the deer we will get the first worker in 11 turns. Farm the wheat in 5, grow to 2 eot16, and then to 3 at eot20. Then its an 8t build for a settler.

Could also try a double worker start and then grow to 4. That would be worker 1 eot10, worker 2 eot19, grow to 2 eot24, size 3 on eot27, size 4 on eot30 and settler eot36. But I'm not sure about worker timing yet there

A lot depends on the obvious second city site. SIP, the easiest spot is 1S of the sheep for the quick PRO trade route. I think we should scout 2N, 1W on the first turn, as that spot is a possibility for a capital move that allows a 10t worker and there's more early TR options.

[vanrober]

What are your thoughts about civ and leader? i saw you just picked Celts and i guess you will pair it with a Pro, but, it would be nice to read the comments of 2 pros

[pindicator]

Think superdeath picks China again?

[Commodore]

What are your thoughts about civ and leader? i saw you just picked Celts and i guess you will pair it with a Pro, but, it would be nice to read the comments of 2 pros

We're definitely picking for fun a bit. Protective Celts are pretty nice for cheap culture but the real juice in these games are two-movers, and the Celts have a ton of great options there with Gaels and all archer units able to be born with 2-moves on hills. Our current thoughts are towards Qin (Ind/Pro) or Saladin (Spi/Pro) for either an all-in early Great Lighthouse play or early esoteric pushes towards religion for XP and OR.

Think superdeath picks China again?

Maybe, he does like them and they are quite good. I hope it's irrelevant and he murder-suicides on the *other* side of the map for once.

[pindicator]

I'm not so sure about moving, I think we should definitely move the scout and see if there's anything there first. If there is nothing new discovered then we're not really saving anything by moving the capital - yes, you'll get the worker in 10 but SIP gets the worker in 11 - so you just miss out on some beakers and 1h. Moving doesn't appear to make the worker decisions any easier also as unless you go for the double-worker opening you're going to want to farm the wheat and then camp the deer immediately after because the deer is a 6-yield while the sheep is only 5.

[Commodore]

Yeah, scout needs to check 2N for the coast; GLH must always be in the back of any Pro's mind. However, I suspect SIP will just be strictly superior.