[PB58 Spoilers] Sea Monsters and Other Lurking Types

[Old Harry]

I think the layout is gorgeous. Spoilered for those who want to discover it as the players explore.

Everyone has a lot of room to expand and it's going to be easy to know who's claimed more than their fair share. The only problem I spotted is the two crabs west/east of everyone's capitals where one will be orphaned.

[pindicator]

The only problem I spotted is the two crabs west/east of everyone's capitals where one will be orphaned.

[pindicator]

All right, I think I'm ready to open this up for review.  Please be as critical as you can, because we all know the players will.

Does anybody have a link to Novice's map tool?  Or perhaps can just run it through and post the output here?

[Old Harry]

Inca seems to be missing a scout.

No fur or gems should make CHA competitive. Did anyone pick it?

Couldn't see any other issues. You'll get complaints about how big it is once someone's running a 50-city empire. But that's their fault for conquering their neighbours.

[pindicator]

Should I try to shrink it? I could narrow the whole mountain range center area by a tile or two on each side.

There's also no sugar. I put Gems in the Astronomy Islands, but now I'm thinking maybe i get rid of that and just keep the astronomy islands as high-food areas and leave out any special resources.

EDIT: Scout fixed, thanks for catching that.

[Mjmd]

Mainly looks super interesting. A couple of the river areas near capitals could use some random hills nearby. Specifically the two in the SW / W.

[Old Harry]

If it's easy to take a few tiles off the size I would. And yeah, the mountain range gives a bit too clear a border, so shrinking it probably works.

[pindicator]

Ugh, so I guess it's not so simple. I think making the mountain range smaller actually makes the border more pronounced and part of what I wanted was a wide hilly range to not make the border quite so clean.

I did find that Superdeath had an extra silver that he should not have gotten, and tried to balance out the hills that Mjmd pointed out a little better.

Below is a link to the final:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cdnvgv6aifn5z...l.zip?dl=0

[pindicator]

Minor quibble - but Jowy's scout should have gone onto the grass hill, no? You get more sight for your opening settler decision that way, though you do end up a tile farther behind than what he moved.

[civac2]

What tile that matters would that have uncovered?