darrelljs spoiler thread

[darrelljs]

What you need is all here: CFC's Demographics Primer

Now that is money !

Darrel

[Ilios]

2E of the Clam.

Darrell

...is not in the BFC, unless you're playing Kuriotates.

[darrelljs]

...is not in the BFC, unless you're playing Kuriotates.

Doh . So I traded coast for...desert .

Darrell

[T-hawk]

Rego posted that you're struggling with C&D. Let me give you this correction for fairness. (This is not a spoiler, it's not Darrell's fault if CFC can't get the formula right.)

Therefore the GNP calculation is;
Total commerce + total culture + total espionage + (total research * research bonus) – expenses.

This is wrong. Where it says commerce should be GOLD instead.

[Profane]

Please move this discussion to my PBEM5 lurker thread .
Darrell

Imagine just how much more popular your thread would've been...

Doh . So I traded coast for...desert .

Darrell

On the bright side, you have the extra forest...

[darrelljs]

I just can't muster the desire to break down the demographics...just not my thing I guess. I'd really like to know when he goes for an early religion cause that's where I'm headed next, but I think I have a slight lead on him commerce wise:



The advantage of going Bronze Working before Pottery is I can a) revolt to slavery while waiting on the Corn to improve, and b) whip a Workboat which improves the Fish just in time to hit size 2 again. I think I've gained a reasonable amount of commerce and food on regoarrarr this way, and even production despite the fact he is working plains forests because I've gotten in an extra whip cycle. Of coures, he is probably getting close to size 3 but what's he going to do? My mine completes the turn I hit size 3, so I'll continue to work "good" tiles while he is working plains forests.

Darrell

[darrelljs]

Okay, here is a summary for turn 25, regoarrarr is going to do the same and we can see where we are at. All numbers are quoted after I end turn.

First off, here's Amsterdam:



Amsterdam
Size: 4
Food Box: 0
Surplus: F/H/C: 5/6/4
Buildings: Granary
Hammers: 22 into a Settler
Whip Anger: +1 for 5 turns

She just whipped the Granary, nicely timed to regrow from size 3 to 4 with some decent overflow into a Settler. My near term plan is to chop the forest my Settler is headed to (road already built). I can whip the Settler in two turns, scoffing at stacked whip anger for now at least. I hope to land a religion in this second city for the culture bonus (my scouting workboat will be back in time to improve the Fish).

Techs
Mining
Bronze Working
The Wheel
Pottery
Mysticism (42/44)

The Meditation/Polytheism choice is a tricky one. The Great Library is out which makes Polytheism less attractive. I am unenthused about my Pascifism plan so Mediation is less attractive. Need to figure that out soon. Sailing is going to come after the religion tech (assuming I get one) and then I need to take stock of my situation and come up with a new "sprint" plan. I suspect Monarchy is in my near future though.

Units
2 Warriors
1 Workboat
Worker

So just to be clear I have a second Workboat (the first was used to improve the Clams). I plan on avoiding Hunting as long as possible so I can build cheap MP Warriors. At Deity each HR enabled population point costs about 2 gpt (taking into account unit upkeep and maintenance costs) so the payback horizon is pretty far out. In this game though, with such a low difficulty and a guaranteed long game every MP is worth it (especially as a FIN leader).

Darrell

[darrelljs]

It is frustrating when your opponent knows more about what you are doing than you do yourself . I tried to shake him down for 20g by promising not to go for Meditation next and allow him one of the early two religions, but he didn't bite. He probably had some sneaky way of knowing I am on Sailing. He also knew exactly where I put my second city. I know where his is too (2S of the Fish), but only because he mocked me for wasting a forest. Jokes on him, I chopped the forest before settling :neenernee.

After Sailing comes in I have some questions. I need:

Monotheism for OR and missionaries sans monasteries
Monarchy for HR
Writing/Mathematics for obvious reasons.
Currency for intercontinental trade routes
Calendar/IW for Dyes

I badly need more Workers/Settlers and a Galley

Darrell

[athlete4life10]

After Sailing comes in I have some questions. I need:

Monotheism for OR and missionaries sans monasteries
Monarchy for HR
Writing/Mathematics for obvious reasons.
Currency for intercontinental trade routes
Calendar/IW for Dyes

I badly need more Workers/Settlers and a Galley

Darrell

Where's the question(s)?

[darrelljs]

Err...I meant some choices. As in what order to go after those things in.

Darrell