Hi,
since my name was mentioned I might as well offer my 0.2 gold on this issue...
I have to agree with Sirian about posting reports violating the rules. "Participating in a tournament" for me means not just downloading and playing the game. That alone is just watching the tournament, not participating in it. For me, I only become a participant of the tournament once I've decided to post a report about my game, to submit my entry to be reviewed and scored by the sponsor and the community.
So you're fine if you download Epic games and play them any way you want, freely bending or ignoring the rules to ease the challenge, to explore different situations or for whatever reason you may have. I guess (even hope) there are lurkers out there doing just that (and in fact, I'd like to see any statistics Gris/KoP have on Epic game downloads). Fun is where you find it, to borrow a phrase from an RBer from a different forum.
Once you've decided that you want to submit your game, though, you have to obey to the rules. Normally, in other tournaments of any kind, entries are submitted to the organizers, reviewed by them, and only valid entries get scored/published. Here, the part of reviewing the entries before publishing them is skipped, so it would be nice for the community to respect all the rules by themselves from the start.
We always were a community of like-minded players where no strong regulation or rule enforcement was needed. In fact, I don't think this whole tournament would have lasted longer than a couple of games if Sirian would have been forced to invest even more energy with constantly having to regulate others.
More often than not, people only realize late in a game that they have made a mistake and accidentally broken a rule, and just post a shadow report about it. That's okay in my mind. But if people started to post reports of games where they willingly ignored the rules, the whole tournament would erode. Other people (newcomers, or even old-timers) would ask themselves, why not do the same - they didn't like rule X anyway. That's a very slippery slope.
-Kylearan
since my name was mentioned I might as well offer my 0.2 gold on this issue...
microbe Wrote:Are you saying I'm not even allowed to download the save and play it if I do not do whatever rules you specifyWas that meant to be a serious question? Of course you are allowed to.
I have to agree with Sirian about posting reports violating the rules. "Participating in a tournament" for me means not just downloading and playing the game. That alone is just watching the tournament, not participating in it. For me, I only become a participant of the tournament once I've decided to post a report about my game, to submit my entry to be reviewed and scored by the sponsor and the community.
So you're fine if you download Epic games and play them any way you want, freely bending or ignoring the rules to ease the challenge, to explore different situations or for whatever reason you may have. I guess (even hope) there are lurkers out there doing just that (and in fact, I'd like to see any statistics Gris/KoP have on Epic game downloads). Fun is where you find it, to borrow a phrase from an RBer from a different forum.
Once you've decided that you want to submit your game, though, you have to obey to the rules. Normally, in other tournaments of any kind, entries are submitted to the organizers, reviewed by them, and only valid entries get scored/published. Here, the part of reviewing the entries before publishing them is skipped, so it would be nice for the community to respect all the rules by themselves from the start.
We always were a community of like-minded players where no strong regulation or rule enforcement was needed. In fact, I don't think this whole tournament would have lasted longer than a couple of games if Sirian would have been forced to invest even more energy with constantly having to regulate others.
More often than not, people only realize late in a game that they have made a mistake and accidentally broken a rule, and just post a shadow report about it. That's okay in my mind. But if people started to post reports of games where they willingly ignored the rules, the whole tournament would erode. Other people (newcomers, or even old-timers) would ask themselves, why not do the same - they didn't like rule X anyway. That's a very slippery slope.
Quote:Just take Epic48 as an example, Kylearan played the game in completely different variant rules,No, I did not. The original rules were still in effect for me, I only expanded on them. There's a difference between breaking the rules and adding more. You're not allowed to participate in the Tour de France with a motorcyclye; however, nobody prevents you from participating on a normal bike with your right arm tied behind you back.
-Kylearan
There are two kinds of fools. One says, "This is old, and therefore good." And one says, "This is new, and therefore better." - John Brunner, The Shockwave Rider
