The First Civ6 Lurker Thread

[shinghand]

What will the knights do?  Is he going to slow build a bunch to counter the legion swarm?

Seems like it. Also worth noting that Sullla's oligarchy, great general, promoted legions have a higher strength rating than fresh knights.

Game is more or less over...

[antisocialmunky]

One can still dream but probably it'll go down predictably:

[shinghand]

From yuris' last update, is it fair to say that yuris believes that Sullla is in a serious war with teh at the moment? He seems to feel threatened by Sullla taking over Teh's cities.

[Singaboy]

Completely delusional and unaware of the situation. This borders the absurd.

I say, once Sulla takes out Archduke and the city states, Yuri will finally wake up and hopefully throw in the towel. This game is no longer exciting.

[Commodore]

I say, once Sulla takes out Archduke and the city states, Yuri will finally wake up and hopefully throw in the towel.

Time when it's obvious to lurkers is much earlier than time obvious to players.

[kjn]

Completely delusional and unaware of the situation. This borders the absurd.

I say, once Sulla takes out Archduke and the city states, Yuri will finally wake up and hopefully throw in the towel. This game is no longer exciting.

1. I believe you are being unfair to Yuris here, and projecting how you think the game should be played onto him and the rest of the players. 

2. The game is not played for the excitement or the fun of the lurkers. It is played for the fun of the players. As long as they find something worthwhile in the game, it is up to them to play on.

3. Realms Beyond is about seeking challenge and fun, not necessarily winning. As long as the players have had fun and learnt something new about the game they are winners. I also believe they have managed to give everyone lurking here some new interest or knowledge about Civ 6.

[Singaboy]

The reason why I say it's delusional is due to the fact that Yuri should be able to read the information available to him:

Sulla's power rating must be so much higher than anyone else. teh's 4-5 archers and Yuri's 2 archers and 3 melee units are no match at all versus Sulla's war machine. This information is available to him.

Sulla is taking over Archduke's land with breathtaking speed. Keep in mind that the movement rules of civ 6 make it tougher to storm over a foe, yet Sulla it taking almost a city a turn. This has to be apparent to other players.

Hence, the statement, that he will rule them with knights (when he doesn't even have a precursor unit for upgrading to knights) is either made in jest or delusional.

[rho21]

Leaving aside the delusional comment, I for one would rather not see either of them throw in the towel yet. There's a lot of interest in how the tactical game plays out in multiplayer, as that's both something new compared to Civ IV, and something the AI can't handle.

If we can see Yuris or teh (or both together) manoeuvre their way through a big war with Sulla, it will be well worth them playing on, even if all chance of victory has gone already.

[MJW (ya that one)]

I wouldn't go as far to call him delusional but Yuri gave the game to Sullla without even knowing it and doesn't have an excuse because the Civ6 demographics gives you too much information.

[kjn]

I wouldn't go as far to call him delusional but Yuri gave the game to Sullla without even knowing it and doesn't have an excuse because the Civ6 demographics gives you too much information.

I think you're mistaking the weak point for the entire spear, here.

Yes, there is no doubt that Yuris's actions helped Sullla by tying down teh's forces around Aquilae. But do you think that teh could have managed to take the city anyway? At worst case, Sullla would have a few more pillaged tiles, and would have to let Archduke live another turn or two since one of the legions would have been places around the city. Hardly conclusive, in any case.

teh tried to intervene in the war, by propping up Archduke (which worked) and by opening a front against Sullla around Aquilae. The second effort had to abort due to Yuris's intervention, but frankly, teh was horribly unprepared for any sort of offensive action. He had the units for a credible defence, but not for any sort of offensive action. His expansion and his research choices seems to have been very good, but at warring he has been outplayed by Yuris.

Archduke seems to have gone into the game with no real plan, and also seems to have been making poor settling decisions. I think he has managed to put up a credible defence, given the situation he found himself in, but he was caught with his pants down.

Meanwhile Sullla went into the game with plenty of preparation and a reasonably clear pre-game plan, that he then adjusted throughout the game. He got a couple of lucky breaks (e.g. the religious city-state) that he took advantage of, and he was able to capitalise on the mistakes of just about every other player through the game, while the opposite wasn't true.