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I'm fairly bad at deception. I can play a role that is "myself in a slightly different situation", but I can't act out an entire character that isn't me at all.
Either that or I'm so good at deception that I can even act like someone who's bad at it. Of course if you can see right through that then it can't be true, in which case maybe it is true again... !
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Sareln Wrote:Sure, what role?
Elf Diplomat. I was travelling to distant lands to negotiate a trade agreement and stayed overnight in the wrong village at the wrong time.
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uberfish Wrote:Elf Diplomat. I was travelling to distant lands to negotiate a trade agreement and stayed overnight in the wrong village at the wrong time.
Done.
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novice Wrote:Okay, everybody who's good at deception, raise their hands.
I'm a lawyer in real life.
Checking in now that I am back in town, and then I am headed back to the office.
So far the only hard evidence I see is the initial votes.
The run on Cull was really the only thing I've seen that stood out to me as strange. These individuals voted in that run in this order: Lewwyn, Roland, uberfish, sandover, Mardoc, scooter.
Lewwyn started the initial vote on Cull. And then took it off once someone else voted for Cull. Then returned it when it appeared safe at only one vote. But then when it looked like Cull could really be lynched, he switched his vote to MJW, who was a villager.
My interpretation is that Lewwyn switched off Cull, who he started the suspicion of for future cover, only when it became clear Cull could be lynched. By voting for Cull if he was later lynched as a wolf, Lewwyn would gain cover. But once it looked like Cull, his packmate, might be lynched, Lewwyn switched.
None of this is revelatory by any means, but it does seem to me to be the only tangibly strange behavior that rises above general gut feelings so far.
Who knows, maybe both Lewwyn and Cull are villagers and it was just a strange coincidence. But that is about all I have to go on so far.
I'll try to check back in before bed.
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uberfish Wrote:Elf Diplomat.
Elfs are worse the werewolves, your up next buddy.
And there is most likly the extent of my role playing.
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I have updated the role PM's part of the first post to reflect most accurately how the fool determines his scrys.
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Gold Ergo Sum Wrote:The run on Cull was really the only thing I've seen that stood out to me as strange. These individuals voted in that run in this order: Lewwyn, Roland, uberfish, sandover, Mardoc, scooter.
You forgot Meiz. He was on Cull before I was. I thought lawyers were big into attention to details?
I found the sudden rush on Cull to be rather strange, as well. Personally, I'd chalk it up to various people not wanting to see MJW fall simply because they became convinced they had made a mistake. After all, MJW was a convenient target. Nothing pointed towards his innocence nor guilt, and I suspect a few people voted for him as the greatest of all evils, regardless of which side he would fall on. As for Cull, he had as yet contributed much of anything, and was going neck-and-neck with pocketbeetle as "the one" to watch - ironic, considering how many other candidates we had that were quiet (yourself, notably). Yes, he was far behind in votes, but his name was tossed about with PB's on more than one occasion, and for the same reasons: too quiet.
If anything, I'd say pocketbeetle is the greater suspect out of all of this. He was the one approaching MJW in votes, and a careful staging of tying his name to Cull beforehand nicely set us up for what we had at the end of the day - an easy explainable swing to Cull.
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Roland Wrote:If anything, I'd say pocketbeetle is the greater suspect out of all of this. He was the one approaching MJW in votes, and a careful staging of tying his name to Cull beforehand nicely set us up for what we had at the end of the day - an easy explainable swing to Cull. The f*** are you smoking?
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Here's the thing. No one defended Cull. No one once said "Cull may not be wolf i haven't seen any suspicious posts." I don't believe that if he were a wolf that the other wolves would leave him so defenseless. That's another point about that run that scared me. Not only was it quick but there were no objections at all really. At least with MJW you had people arguing in his defense. In fact, I think that should be another factor here.
Say Cull and MJW are both villagers, you are a wolf, who would you rather was lynched? MJW the distraction, or Cull the unobtrusive to date? And how would you accomplish this? Defend one and not defend the other? I am not saying this is what happened but it is a possibility. I think we should look at MJW defenders. Wolves KNOW he is an innocent, why wouldn't they try to defend him. If he's lynched they just say, "see I was right, I thought he was a villager."
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pocketbeetle Wrote:The f*** are you smoking? 
Absolutely nothing - just don't tell MJW.
You can honestly say you don't feel the same, looking at it from an outside perspective? You were the second-in-line behind MJW, and gaining traction to lynching you, then all of a sudden people starting shifting towards Cull. Next thing you know you're safe and sound, Cull and MJW are the prime targets, and not quite enough votes swung towards Cull to lynch him in favor of MJW - but you were very safe. Yet despite that I can see no discernible reason for ANYONE to move off you 3 people did so - at the end of the day, saving you from any threat of being lynched and throwing Cull under the tide in your stead. Now, honestly, tell me that doesn't look suspicious to you - from an objective viewpoint.
I'm not saying you're a 'Wolf, nor that you had anything to do with the swing - after all, I highly doubt the 'Wolves would make such a glaringly brazen, coordinated move like that, especially this early in the game - but it does make you more suspicious. I don't think you can argue that, except to say it's "coincidence" - which may very well be true, but does very little to sway suspicion from you.
Not to sound harsh, but what have you contributed to the discussion, aside from your (mildly amusing) roleplay with (against) novice?
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