September 9th, 2011, 23:14
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Erebus Wrote:I'm about to start in on Roland's wall of text, but before that I have raise my eyebrow at Scooter.
It's totally okay for Zak to assume the vigilante kill and not myself?
I saw the results, and thought to myself, with the way everything was yesterday, Rowain was at the top of a few peoples list. If the vigi is who I think it is, I don't want to explain anymore without ousting him.
I figured Lewwyn lying low would get some attention, as well as his hard mayor run, but Rowain seemed to be pulling more village aggro.
I hadn't had time to respond as I was watching the thread on my mobile while at the store, but Zak echoed my sentiment, and I figured I'd put in into words.
I know I also have Jkaen as my vote, but it goes beyond activity as he said internet access would be extremely rare. It was his 180 degree flip on Uberfish which caught my attention.
This will be brief - writing from my phone.
To answer - I wrote much of that post while I had no Internet access - so it was mostly from memory. Your comments apparently stuck out to me more than the others. Besides, I didn't say I'm voting for you. Just saying it caught my attention. If everyone else thinks those comments are not useful then I'll drop it. It was very much a stream of consciousness post which is the norm for me.
September 9th, 2011, 23:14
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Oops. Sorry Gaspar. :neenernee You may want to make that a double...
Or maybe a triple?
Actually, after all that typing (holy crap it's after midnight...) I may fix myself a little nightcap, and call it a night. I'm beat. Maybe in the morning there'll be more discussion to banter about from our friends across the pond. For now, this Yankee is turning in.
September 9th, 2011, 23:15
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Roland Wrote:He pushed awfully hard from the get-go to get uberfish lynched. I know - that's something no 'Wolf would consider doing, or so everyone tells me - but combined with how he read Injera's post... it just makes me feel like he's trying too hard to tie people together.
This makes sense. On this recommendation, I'll add Catwalk to my mix.
You can get a look at a t-bone by looking up the bulls ass but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
September 9th, 2011, 23:17
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I haven't read his second wall of text yet, but Roland certainly seems innocent after that first one. It would be incredibly hard to consistently fake that well-known tone throughout a post of that magnitude.
Since he seems to believe I am innocent too, I don't think there's anything in there I need to answer. He's mostly just criticizing my character, and the questions in there all appear to be rhetorical. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Roland.
I will be moving on to other suspects, and I already saw some other things to comment on. I'll split that into a new post so this one doesn't get further separated from the post it's meant to address.
If you know what I mean.
September 9th, 2011, 23:18
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Geez Roland. Can anyone provide a tl;dr of that?
I'll read it tomorrow. Bedtime now.
September 9th, 2011, 23:30
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Sareln Wrote:The same reason behind voting randomly for lynch on the first post. I decided to give both votes randomly w/out considering the new importance of the mayor in this setup. So a bad reason.
No Vote
I'm not sure what to make of Uberfish's post, but am not too proud to take free kills. In the meantime though, I want to shake the tree a little and see what Scooter has to say.
Hmm. Out of Sareln's 16 posts, this is the best one. Other than this, we have a random.org introduction and a lot of vote tallying. Have to say that Sareln is on the list of very low content ost count ratio. On a day when an innocent was getting himself lynched by a landslide, what better way to stay under the radar?
You can get a look at a t-bone by looking up the bulls ass but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
September 9th, 2011, 23:34
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Tl;dr for Roland's wall of text: I'm a villager, you're a villager, but it doesn't mean we have to like each other.
To answer Roland's comments about that post. I presented it badly, as I often do. It was very similiar to Catwalk's vote data from WW6. I was trying to explain the situation and how it doesn't really help our cause.
The uberfish issue just seemed like a giant circle with nothing to be gleamed without knowing uberfish's role and still little beyond that.
My vote against Zakalwe was for his vigilante comment. He did the same thing last game and got Kuro (the villager) killed. I was wondering what was the chances of wolf Zakalwe saying "Hey it worked last game, why not this game." As stated by Gaspar, wasting the vigi shot is a very anti-village thing imo.
I eventually voted uberfish because I was frustrated that it was chased so far, and that only proving his role would help with anything. I changed my vote the next post when I calmed down a bit and realized that I was right in the first place.
I butted heads with zakalwe last game and got away with it, so I'm not afraid of him. I also had Lewwyn and Serdoa telling me the entire game how wolfish I was and how badly they were going to lynch me, so I'm not afraid of the attention. I overcontribute, and I think that's my fault. Even when I don't think the line of reasoning is helpful (i.e. the circular logic surrounding uberfish) I somehow feel the need to explain it. My need to feel helpful I guess.
Anyways my innocent list is: Serdoa, Roland, Zakalwe, and Ichabod.
My suspect lists: Sareln, twinkletoes and Jkaen.
With Meiz, scooter, and Catwalk a neutral position.
I don't have any opinion on Injera, seems very new and hard to read.
September 9th, 2011, 23:34
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Don't ask me why I'm still awake. I do this ALL the time (stay up WAY later than I should, because of "just a little more..."). :neenernee
zakalwe Wrote:I haven't read his second wall of text yet, but Roland certainly seems innocent after that first one. It would be incredibly hard to consistently fake that well-known tone throughout a post of that magnitude.
I'm going to take that as a compliment, rather than get self-conscious about it.
zakalwe Wrote:Since he seems to believe I am innocent too, I don't think there's anything in there I need to answer. He's mostly just criticizing my character, and the questions in there all appear to be rhetorical. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Roland.
Well, they weren't all rhetorical, but I don't think there was anything too serious (it's pretty bad when I have to re-read my own posts :neenernee). For what it's worth, I tried to keep the rhetoric down a bit (yes, I'm well aware I didn't do that good of a job; sue me :neenernee), but yeah it was mostly all just defending against your post - and anyone who might follow it. I don't think there'll be much harm in skimming (or skipping) over that one. It won't hurt my feelings if you decide to, anyway. (Besides, I'm too exhausted to get riled up over anything else tonight. And please, PLEASE force this to be my last post for the night. I don't trust myself not to stay up waiting to respond to whatever it is you have to say next!)
zakalwe Wrote:I will be moving on to other suspects, and I already saw some other things to comment on. I'll split that into a new post so this one doesn't get further separated from the post it's meant to address.
Sorry if this post ruins the "flow" of whatever it is you're trying to tie together. I promise it will be my last for the night.
September 9th, 2011, 23:41
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Meiz summary: great observations. I don't see why people are suspicious of him. He comments on TT looking suspicious, on uberfish being somewhat suspicious but probably not, etc. Essentially, his points are similar to Roland's... but they don't require a tl:dr version. The only thing I'd hold against him is that there's not really any great quotes I can use here. But that's par for the course, if I remember. Typically observant, intelligent, but not easy to quote. I'd move him into my low-suspicion camp.
You can get a look at a t-bone by looking up the bulls ass but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
September 9th, 2011, 23:42
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Also to add upon something brought up many posts ago.
Zakalwe mentioned he was worried about the thread content near the beginning, which he was alleviated from.
I believe it's because we have a better split of timezones(Between North America and Europe). The thread has a much smoother flow. I remember in WW6, being frustrated at all the posts happening while I was asleep and being able to defend myself in real time.
So we shouldn't expect 10 page overnights, but rather steady flows of posts. To prevent this from being a no content post we all hate so much it might be best if we pay attention to who's posting when and if they are seriously out of their normal time frame. It's commonly brought up that wolves like to stay quiet and lurk until a need to defend themselves come up, and we should be extra vigilante. Meh, whatever
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