[LURKER THREAD] WW24: Whispers of the Dead

[Gaspar]

I am very Zen these days, I'll have you know.

[Qgqqqqq]

Okay if someone signs up before the day 1 deadline and tasunke doesn't I will replace him.
Volunteers?

[Bigger]

you should put in mjw, since he was the 14th signup. or pindicator.

[Qgqqqqq]

They may not still be available, which is why I'm asking. Should I post in the setup thread?

[Gaspar]

Well, looks like Tasunke's arrived. Of course, he won't actually read the thread for content, just skim for his name, make a few inane posts quickly and then go away. No offense, Tasunke.

[pindicator]

You can't use me, i'm spoiled by posting here. Also i'm about to be unavailable for about 48h

I'd wager Gazglum is scum.  Offering the helping hand to Brick when he's being attacked and acting like the mature voice of reason to help Brick cool down, and then in the next breath attacking and voting for Brick for a very nit-picky thing.  That's duplicitous enough to get my vote on day 1.

Lewwyn could be scum, but i think he could just as well have malfunctioning scumdar. When he's off he'll dig in just as hard as when he's on, which is why i'm thinking town for him. (And i've been the target of enough of his false-positive attacks to know he seems scummy if you're the target. And to know how damn frustrating he is.)

Zak gets night-killed tonight. Calling it now

[Bigger]

Ichabod, can you explain your case on Slowcheetah in a bit more detail? The inability to filter the thread on poster is very annoying, it's making it hard to check up on people's theories.

I'm not investing much time in this game, so don't expect much in terms of cases. Slowcheetah timings and reactions fit with scum for me. The reactive first posts, the change that happened once I said my case (he was more quiet), the attack on me (which wasn't just after my case, as to not be seen as a revenge vote) and him keeping his vote on me when it's meaningless.

Zakalwe's post against BRick is pretty good. I have the same feeling that his play is very scummy and it seems a bit too much. I'd vote for him and I'll probably do if he's against Azza, but I'm a bit afraid that BRick was mislynched loads of times. Maybe something in his way of play is just inherently scummy (like Rowain, for example).

Good points about Gazglum too. The friendly posts are characteristic to Gazglum, I think. So I'll let it slide for now.

I'll say this about Brick: he does not "always act scummy" like Rowain does. Rowain comes off like that because he never tries to appear like a villager, whether he is or not. uberfish is the same way. brick tries a little too hard, but that shouldnt be a scum tell for him. really, to me he seems clearly innocent, and I'd be defending him again if I was in this game. I think its just a case of those on his wagon not adjusting to the way he plays, and noticing things that might be scum tells if THEY were doing them.

I could be wrong though, I'm not spoiled.

[pindicator]

Taking back my zak

night kill prediction because he sounds more like scum the more i catch up on the thread. He's not exploring targets at all and seems way too eager to stick to one person.

[Gaspar]

I actually think zak is innocent here. The main zak innocence tell is the extent to which he tries to run the show. I'd say he's the leader at this point. I can't see this when I play with him of course, all I see there is blind rage.

I think the village is generally barking up the right tree. I think there's an excellent chance there's a scum in the Gazglum/Brick/Lewwyn interaction from last night. I could make the argument for all three.

Which brings me to the ultimate why lurking is more fun than playing. If I wanted to, I could make an argument for all three in here and then we'd discuss whether I was right or not. If I made the same argument in the thread I'd have to listen to 4 people talk about how I only make lists like that when I'm scum. :P

[Bigger]

thats an interesting view on zak. not sure if its a good read on him or not.
here's my tell, which works more in game than from the lurkers lounge: is he making sense? I think he freuently has trouble (or has in the past, he's getting better as scum) creating strong arguments for lynching a person he knows is innocent, so is usually pretty perceptive and cunning as a villager, but tends to latch on more as scum. thats pretty subjective, but its worked for me in the past, I've generally been able to read him when i was a villager.