WW14 - The Edge of Reason

[pindicator]

@Injera - You're right about me letting others do leg work for me in day one. I wasn't putting the same amount of effort into this for the same reason you weren't, actually. After my blow-up in WW12 I was really burnt out and frustrated at the game. So I told myself that if I did give it another chance I would try to be more low key and not spend hours creating spreadsheets and looking at voting history and pouring over posts. But what happens when you don't put the same amount of effort into something? You get shittier results. So I'm building up the spreadsheet and making notes again. Bottom line: you'll get better out of me than what I contributed day 1.

Another problem is that nobody seems to be giving off obvscum tells. Maybe I need to approach it from a different angle and try to work out who I think is village. I think Rowain suggested that approach earlier.

Anyway, I want to hold off on further comment until I finish charting votes and notes.

no vote

[waterbat]

your tribe ended up winning, mostly due to you

MOSTLY DUE TO YOU??

dude - I laid ALL the groundwork for that victory. Injera just went with the grand plan i laid out. I encoded it in the same cipher Selrahc used and placed it in a secure location. He obviously found it and rode it to victory.

As for your name...

Also my third favorite from 2001:
N'Sync: Bigger than Live

on a list of movies made in 2001.

YES IT WAS THE BASIS FOR MY ORIGINAL VOTE.
Although as a veggie wolf, N'Sync probably right up your alley.

[Injera]

are you going to vote Injera? seems like you suspect everyone to be village, but we know that's not possible.

I did vote a little while back, for JKaen.

also curious what this means, since Rowain blew up his tribe and your tribe ended up winning, mostly due to you :P.

I meant it more as he plays the game on a higher meta level than I do. He deduced (partially correctly) that zakalwe was a wolf based on a single comment that zak sort of brushed off and then moved preemptively in. I don't think I would have even noticed the zak brush off, let alone think to move decisively. Of course, in the end it all worked out for my pack, but it was mostly just me waiting out the inevitable chain of claims and not screwing up night kills. I think overall your pack played the best of all three. Claiming seer was the only mistake, but ultimately a fatal one.

[Bigger]

I think my biggest mistake was killing tasunke on the last night and not Sareln, but lets not get side tracked .

I see your vote now, I was looking at uber's tally that had you as a no vote, the very next post was you voting for Jkaen.

I would like to see a vote from Jkaen and Sareln.

And for Goodness sake, more posts from Molach and Mattimeo.

[Injera]

are you going to vote Injera? seems like you suspect everyone to be village, but we know that's not possible.

Also, for the second half of this. Funny, when I was coming up with this I was thinking, "man, I think everyone is scummy, they all can't be wolves." I've gotten strong village vibes from waterbat, and I think you're likely villager. JKaen and Lewwyn feel scummy to me, and then it's sort of a mess in the middle. I have a lot of mild suspicions, but we have a lot of people who just haven't said much or I have trouble reading.

At this point we don't have enough mislynches for all the lurkers, so if we want to win the village lurkers need to get active. This includes me, but it sounds like pindicator got the message as well. Hopefully others will too.

[Bigger]

after rereading all of waterbats posts with his post-restriction in mind.. well I'm not off his case, there are some inconsistencies there. But I'm not sure my "awkward and unconfident like ww13" characterization holds up. He's still my top suspect of those that are participating enough for me to have enough data to make a judgement.

At this point we don't have enough mislynches for all the lurkers, so if we want to win the village lurkers need to get active. This includes me, but it sounds like pindicator got the message as well. Hopefully others will too.

maybe not, but we can lynch one to get their attention - seems better than just letting lurkers (wolf or village) get away with surviving to end game without contributing - that certainly helped the wolves last time around.


Sareln, Molach, and mattimeo seem to be the worst offenders. I'll vote matt because he seems a bit desperate to let me know he is a villager, even slipping in "btw I'm a villager" comments in our diplomacy convo's (twice now).

[Lewwyn]

Also, for the second half of this. Funny, when I was coming up with this I was thinking, "man, I think everyone is scummy, they all can't be wolves." I've gotten strong village vibes from waterbat, and I think you're likely villager. JKaen and Lewwyn feel scummy to me, and then it's sort of a mess in the middle. I have a lot of mild suspicions, but we have a lot of people who just haven't said much or I have trouble reading.

So what you're saying is, "I'm having difficulty picking someone to mislynch."

Injera do you have my nose?

[Sareln]

Injera

It seems odd to me that Injera, Waterbat, and Bigger are sitting here reminiscing about their time as wolves instead of hunting now. Filling the air with white noise. Injera brings it up, Bigger amplifies it, Waterbat feels drawn into it. Not quite sure what to make of it all.

Injera, Lewwyn is not the true king of the lurkers. I find his comment about your list rather compelling.

[Mattimeo]

Pfft, Bigger, you're clearly meant to spread word you're a villager at all opportunities, no matter what your role is. You actually get double points for doing it while you really are a villager, as is the case now :D

Not sure I'm all that fond of who's jumped on the Jkaen wagon recently... don't know that it's enough to get me to get off it just yet, though. Reasonable argument being made against Injera.

I guess I should probably attempt to wake up at a reasonable time so I can actually show for the last few hours of the day. Doesn't really help that my currently borked sleeping pattern puts it pretty much half way through sleeping time :/

[waterbat]

Injera

It seems odd to me that Injera, Waterbat, and Bigger are sitting here reminiscing about their time as wolves instead of hunting now. Filling the air with white noise. Injera brings it up, Bigger amplifies it, Waterbat feels drawn into it. Not quite sure what to make of it all.

Injera, Lewwyn is not the true king of the lurkers. I find his comment about your list rather compelling.

How do you take my post "reminiscing"? It definitely was not that. I was disagreeing with something bigger posted. In fact, I now disagree with that disagreement.

Now I am very curious as to how LLewyn has developed some particularly idiosyncratic behavior. Some kind of trauma in your past llewyn? perhaps involving the facial area?

I don't quite get it, but I am suddenly leaning very innocent on the poor guy who's been reduced to looking around for his nose.

Good calls on Injera. Does someone have a tally? been up for too many hours dont have the capacity to do one.