The ivory is not relevant.
Either we want CFC to stop pillaging us or not. If we want them to stop, we need to say and do things that will motivate them to stop. If not, then presumably we're okay with it, along with whatever other aggressive actions they can come up with over the next 22 turns.
This is why it's important to stand up to their BS. It's not some silly revenge thing or pride thing, but a matter of incentives. CFC's history with us tells them they can get away with it.
I've never really cared about the actions CFC has already taken. The past is the past and won't change. I don't care if they apologize, either. What matters is the actions they haven't taken yet, and whether we can prevent them from taking them. If that means we have to kill their chariot, we kill it. We'd be idiots to leave them around pillaging our towns.
Some of you guys are missing the obvious. CFC has so far never agreed to or abided by any part of a deal unless they considered it in their favor at the time. They still desire peace with us! We'd already be at war if they didn't, but they've learned step by step that we'll allow them to get away with anything and still maintain peace.
For now, keep it short and simple with no wiggle room. "Stop pillaging us." Then it's up to them to decide if there will be consequences.
Either we want CFC to stop pillaging us or not. If we want them to stop, we need to say and do things that will motivate them to stop. If not, then presumably we're okay with it, along with whatever other aggressive actions they can come up with over the next 22 turns.
This is why it's important to stand up to their BS. It's not some silly revenge thing or pride thing, but a matter of incentives. CFC's history with us tells them they can get away with it.
I've never really cared about the actions CFC has already taken. The past is the past and won't change. I don't care if they apologize, either. What matters is the actions they haven't taken yet, and whether we can prevent them from taking them. If that means we have to kill their chariot, we kill it. We'd be idiots to leave them around pillaging our towns.
Some of you guys are missing the obvious. CFC has so far never agreed to or abided by any part of a deal unless they considered it in their favor at the time. They still desire peace with us! We'd already be at war if they didn't, but they've learned step by step that we'll allow them to get away with anything and still maintain peace.
For now, keep it short and simple with no wiggle room. "Stop pillaging us." Then it's up to them to decide if there will be consequences.
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FFH-20: Jonas Endain of the Clan of Embers
EITB Pitboss 1: Clan/Elohim/Calabim with Mardoc and Thoth
FFH-20: Jonas Endain of the Clan of Embers
EITB Pitboss 1: Clan/Elohim/Calabim with Mardoc and Thoth
