The Backstabbers' Table - PBEM 4 Diplomacy Thread

[TheArchduke]

@ Oledavy and Singaboy

The more I think about the more I am seriously pissed.

Those bloody shenanigans with Triton would not have been possible if I had gifted a city to Spain thereby gaming the occupation system. Why did I do not do it?
Not for the lack of mediocre cities in my backyard or in Norway which would have been secure.

Given that you have the game in the bag with the VA, I am not sure why such a move was necessary as well.

I am at the moment not terribly in the mood to play my turn to be honest.

The whole business with gifting the VA away was bad enough.

[Woden]

I have to agree with TheArchduke, gifting a city to someone is an exploit of the current occupation system and a little chessy. That being said, we don't have a rule yet on it, so whatever, it should be discussed in future PBEMs. TheArchduke, if you don't feel like playing any more, I will concede now. I wanted to try and hurt Japan a little but I don't think it would make much difference in the long run.

[Singaboy]

@Archduke,

if you want to concede and admit going after Germany all the while instead of focusing on the real runaway, go ahead. Otherwise, stop whining and move on. City trade in this game has been out of whack. I got Germany back for you to take a city that gave you a lot of benefits for your GS. You didn't complain about that either, did you?

oledavy didn't gift me a city to keep me alive. It would have been a different story had it been at a stage where my last city is hanging on ropes. Can't see that yet.

[oledavy]

The city was not sold to Singaboy to make him harder to kill. 

I needed somewhere to run my TRs once Toronto fell.

If my purpose was cheese, clearly I would have sold him a safer inland city.

[Woden]

@TheArchduke,
Just give it 10 more turns and see if you want to continue. You will probably feel better in a few more turns.

[Singaboy]

@Woden and Archduke

I think, it is not up to Archduke to decide at which point the game is over *. Japper, Jester and myself have weathered on despite the fact that we were clearly not in the position to win. To throw some tantrum here and flip back and forth about whether one wants to continue to play is very bad sportsmanship. Archduke has to get over his anger that he can't win despite having the OP nation in the game. Consistently whining about the VA wears off. England has so many advantages on such a map, it's not balanced at all. Why focus on the VA and now use a city trade as the focal point to claim the potential victory is 'not deserved'?

Get on with the game and maybe start to focus on the real foe for you?


* the decision to throw in the towel should be unanimously done by the remaining parties (in this case Archduke, Woden and myself)

[TheArchduke]

@ Singaboy

Tantrum? Where did I do that. You mean when you held the game hostage for your stay in game peace deal?

Throw the game? Woden and me can concede. You have already done so clearly with Triton.

The only consistent bitter with loosing is you Singaboy, I think I have taken both my losses in PBEM #1 and PBEM #2 with decency and without delay and insult. I can not say the same for you after reading your PBEM #2 where you tend to take things personal, so do not project. I would be suprised if the community does not ban the VA for a water based map in the future.

If everyone here thinks Triton is A ok I will continue this charade of a game, don't expect me to smile while I am screwed.

[Singaboy]

Singaboy: Someone really should just put him out of his misery.
oledavy: Want me to kill him for you?
Singaboy: Yeah. Would you?


* blatantly stolen from American Beauty

[TheArchduke]

@ Singaboy Sigh....

@ Woden

I would retreat if you see what I am seeing.

[TheArchduke]

@ Woden

So, any good plans?