WW 19 Game Thread - Mobster Mayhem - GAME OVER

[MJW (ya that one)]

Or you are waiting to pick pocket it from him.

I thought item passing would happen before the lockpick, but maybe I got that wrong? We don't know for sure that scum have the lockpick, anyway.

Also, those rhetorical questions get old real fast.

Within the first 2 posts in this thread; Brick tells us that item passing happens last.

[Rowain]

Or you are waiting to pick pocket it from him.

I thought item passing would happen before the lockpick, but maybe I got that wrong? We don't know for sure that scum have the lockpick, anyway.

Also, those rhetorical questions get old real fast.

Item passing happens after the lockpick.

Just OOI where do you see the scum sitting with thir votes zak?

[Azza]

I'll see if there's any late interest in Tasunke. I don't like how claiming to have an item is supposed to save him, without actually claiming the item.

[MJW (ya that one)]

15 minutes left...

[Azza]

Serdoa

[MJW (ya that one)]

Tasunke

[Rowain]

Serdoa

[zakalwe]

Looks like the rats have come out:

So lets look at those voting for me.

novice: Nothing better than a nice little revenge vote . He himself states that he has only null reads except the fact that I prefer to lynch him over lynching a random villager without card.

uberfish: No reasons given. He immediatly voted for me when I voted novice. His reasoning so far:
a) No reason given except that he thinks that claiming the card was the right thing by novice
b) Really dislike how Rowain is trying to argue for a policy lynch on novice so my vote stays on him.
c) my opinion is that the reasoning "novice is the least bad mislynch if he's village because he has the card" is a convenient scum perspective to take since it allows people to push for Novice's lynch just by arguing about meta

In short it is Rowain thinks it is better to lynch the card and be rid of it than to lynch a random who might be normal villager. He completly disregards the possibility that novice is scum. A few games ago uberfish voted me as mayor because he was sure he could easily read me. Makes me wonder what changed.

Qg:

Anyone who's read Miller play before knows the generally accepted play is to claim on the first post (http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Miller) in general that gives me a town lean on novice (by no means clearing him but the increased visibility he already has makes me think that he is a good mayor candidate).
Because of this I find rowain most suspicious.

Have you read your link?:

If you are a Miller, there are two schools of thought about optimal play:

The first school of thought is that you should claim immediately, ideally in your opening post. This ensures that the Cop will not waste an investigation on you. It becomes more likely that you will be lynched or shot by a Vigilante, however; otherwise, it would be too easy for Mafia to fakeclaim Miller as well.
The second school of thought is that you should not claim, but should play in such a way as to not get investigated; ideally, you would get yourself killed at Night. If investigated, however, you should expect to get lynched.

I have highlighted the interesting parts for you. Perhaps you can form your own opinion whom you want to lynch and why.

pindicator

I want to hear more from Rowain, especially in response to a lot of this novice talk that has gone on.

What more tdo you want to hear?? I have outlined (and I think with great detail) why I find novice a good lynch. You disagree with my reasoning? Fine then bring forth another target with reasons why he should be lynched but spare me that lazy approach you just did

Tasunke Will there come reasons in your posts/votes anytime soon?

I read this as pointing fingers at pretty much all of those people, yeah.

[Serdoa]

I certainly like Tasunke more as a lynch than Rowain right now.

Tasunke

[zakalwe]

So, do I understand your last sentence right that you actually realized that yourself but just wanted to come up with a reason why not to vote Tasunke because you doubt that vote?

What I'm saying is that maybe I'm rationalizing a bit because I'm having doubts about Tasunke and would like to have a logical reason for switching off him.