WW33 - Walking Dead [GAME THREAD]

[Catwalk]

zakalwe, I'm saying that on basis of my role I know that Qg and Jabbz have made honest role claims that have not been disputed. We have no serial killer. And 3 players have claimed a single vanilla spot.

[zakalwe]

I was getting some intangible bad vibes from him on day 1, which I noted at the time. It looks a bit like Goreripper may have picked up on those and tried to nurture them, though. Towards the end of day 2, the interaction between Goreripper and Catwalk looks more like Catwalk is really suspecting him, and Goreripper is trying to discredit him and get him off his back. The caveat is that from my point of view, it's clear that Goreripper must have engaged in some form of distancing.

I'm willing to vote for zakalwe, Qg or Goreripper in that order of preference. I'll check back in a few to see if anyone is interested in switching, I'm surprised at how stale the votes have been today.

Wow. So you trust Azarius and Rowain but you think Rowain leads a whole pack together?

It's highly unlikely that I or Hashoosh will hang today. Suggesting to him that we make our votes matter is an extremely pro-town move.

This is making me more comfortable with Azarius in actual fact. I was worried that no body I felt was scummy was making a move to save him.

These two quotes look more like scum truly on the defensive, though, if I'm honest.

I also agree with your assessment that the messy way he claimed looks more town than scum. Plus, if he's going to go all in with a cop claim, why not claim a guilty result to go with it? It might make sense for a SK, but if he's the only liar, then we have 2 Ts and there is no SK.

Catwalk can still hold on to my vote for now, though, as I'm not sure where to move it yet. Still trying to read up.

[zakalwe]

zakalwe, I'm saying that on basis of my role I know that Qg and Jabbz have made honest role claims that have not been disputed. We have no serial killer. And 3 players have claimed a single vanilla spot.

If Jabbz is lying, then there is 1 T instead of 0 Ts. Which means we do have a SK. So Jabbz could be a SK who is lying, pretending to be a 1-shot vig instead. He could even be a bandit who is lying, counting on the SK not to counterclaim. Not sure if that makes a lot of sense, though.

[zakalwe]

The timing of Hasoosh's claim and the manner in which it was done I find suspicious, and I could see it being done in a very let's-just-slip-this-in-so-no-one-notices way, with elements of trying to avoid all the scum claiming last (or just generally him claiming last) and not understanding that the setup allows one to determine the number of vanilla's.

Having reread last night's posts more carefully, I agree with this, so I will tentatively vote for Hashoosh.

Also, this is based on my earlier point that Hashoosh made a somewhat half-hearted attempt to lynch Goreripper, and more importantly, that Goreripper seemed reluctant to engage with him.

Mattimeo and Hashoosh both ending up on Goreripper on day 2 is a bit cheeky, but certainly not unheard of. Mattimeo made a case on day 1 for once, which is rare, so maybe he was making a special exception for his scumbuddy. And then he followed up with a quiet day, resting his vote on Goreripper without committing to anything.

In any case, that's certainly the most straightforward theory. Maybe a bit too simple, though. It bothers me that Jabbz is being scummy as hell, in a situation where Mattimeo/Hashoosh looks like the only natural conclusion from my point of view, and then proceeds immediately to hack away at a Hashoosh vs. Mattimeo comparison, as if it's a given that I am innocent. Goreripper was clearly buddying up to me, and I'm wondering if Jabbz is following the same strategy.

Still, even if Jabbz is a bandit on some kind of gambit that involves a fake claim, odds are pretty good that his first target for overly rabid aggression will be his own buddy. So Hashoosh seems like a good enough lynch, anyway.

[zakalwe]

Tally as of post 454:

3 votes: Zakalwe (Hashoosh, Catwalk, Qgqqqqq)
3 votes: Hashoosh (Mattimeo, Jabbz, zakalwe)

Voting history:

Hasoosh

Zakalwe

Q

Unvote

catwalk

Catwalk

zakalwe

Catwalk

unvote

Hashoosh

Jabbz

Catwalks

Hasoosh

Jabbz

Zakalwe

Hashoosh

Hashoosh

The tie-breaker has me hanging, currently.

[zakalwe]

Well, that IS interesting...

Godfather? What's that?

More to the point, I think this has been a ploy to frame jabbz, not sure, but I'm going yo go out and vote Zakalwe

I'm still wondering how and where you saw a ploy to frame Jabbz?

[Hashoosh]

It's just something I observe when I play mafia/ww, the scum will kill the opponent of someone in a big two-way fight that happened during the day, hoping to push votes onto the other party. I.e. x and y are trying to get each other hanged, z ends up hanged, and then a, b and c target x hoping to frame y. If that makes a bit of sense. All conjecture.

Also, wow Q, you've changed your vote a lot today.

[Hashoosh]

Now I'm seeing half of that was in one post. Haha.

[zakalwe]

Hashoosh, what devil was Brick speaking of? Richard Nixon?

Me, of course.

Hasoosh, do you have any reactions to the thread so far?

Too many Euro/Asia/Aus time zones, lots of thread spam.

As for writing style, that first in the thread last night was not the poster child of posting-sobriety, and I'll leave it at that.

I'm changing my vote from Brick (what's the vote change protocol for days?) to Ryan, who hasn`t been posting much.

Here is Hashoosh' sole contribution on day 1. The thread has too much spam to comment on anything, but Ryan isn't posting so he needs to hang. At this point in time, Goreripper had 3 votes, and Hashoosh pushed Ryan up to 3 votes. No comment on Goreripper, though.

Also, Catwalk is looking better after rereading day 1. He pushed Commodore a lot on both days, with genuine arguments.

Mattimeo made a case against Goreripper, but it was then shot down by Brick. So if Mattimeo is a bandit, maybe that explains why the bandits would kill Brick. It still looks a bit dubious, though. And I am no closer to believing Jabbz' vig claim after reading day 1. According to him, the only reason he was even voting on day 1 was that otherwise he might be mod-killed. That doesn't exactly match up with killing Novice on night 1. There is not a single trace of his alleged suspicions against Novice in the thread, either.

Hashoosh, do you still think I'm scum with Catwalk? Or what, exactly?

[zakalwe]

And again, Commodore=Goreripper, just to be clear.