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[SPOILERS] Lurker Thread: Where lurkers pretend they could have done better

Square Leg Wrote:I think Kuro may be insome trouble.

I can't believe he is considering making an academy in the city about to be taken... I don't think that an extra 10% defensive bonus from culture is going to make a difference and it basically gives your opponent a free Academy?!

If I were Bob I would just build a road and send WG after WG to go beat him up.
You're right, it won't matter. A WG will get odds even on copper warrior fortified in a city on a hill with good culture bonus. I don't think that situation is salvageable in short, or long term. Once Luchuirp get to a position of having both WGs and adepts they are not possible to stop with anything less than mass collateral.

But to be perfectly honest, this is also Kuro's fault and weedy tech path. It's all good to run a farmer gambit, but if you're not able to defend yourself with anything better than basic ( not even copper! ) warrior on t80 when someone calls you on that, you did something really stupid along the way.
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And it should be obvious that a player that chose the Luchuirp in a game where you can have a starting adept will get enchantment mana and try for a WG rush. I'm not one to speak much, because I can be pretty oblivious while playing, but the pick is still pretty obvious.

Plus, enchanted blade is a crazy good spell. The better promotions from FfH really make one small benefit like copper weapons develop into a much bigger one. I used to think that spamming warriors could avoid every rush (apart from the crazy ones like PoW). But at the end of the day, there's still a lot of things that can go wrong if you rely only on warriors to defend yourself.
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And now Kuro is going Arete.

Sigh rolleye

What's wrong with good old Warfare?
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Caustic Soda Wrote:Going Arete does seem like it may help our short-term chances. It'll delay us gaining our other tech goals, but that happened the moment Bob decided to carry out the attack. I just hope we don't end up like Mist and Sciz did in FFH II.


It's more likely to end like Ellimist and Ichabod in FFH IX lol.

Poor Kuro. It's easy to get lost in all the FfH goodies and do some smoke moves. But he has 2 ded-lurkers! Couldn't them put some sense into his head? He was heading for BW, decided to sidetrack to KotE and was attacked. So, he decided to give up BW to tech Arete? That's certainly crazy.

Imagine if the trait change wasn't so crazily beneficial to him (spi/fin/phi!)... Bob would have had a walk in the park.

I'm sotty if I'm sounding too harsh, but, c'mon, building an academy in a city that'll fall in the next turn is hard for me to understand lol.
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Ichabod Wrote:It's more likely to end like Ellimist and Ichabod in FFH IX lol.

Poor Kuro. It's easy to get lost in all the FfH goodies and do some smoke moves. But he has 2 ded-lurkers! Couldn't them put some sense into his head? He was heading for BW, decided to sidetrack to KotE and was attacked. So, he decided to give up BW to tech Arete? That's certainly crazy.

Imagine if the trait change wasn't so crazily beneficial to him (spi/fin/phi!)... Bob would have had a walk in the park.

I'm sotty if I'm sounding too harsh, but, c'mon, building an academy in a city that'll fall in the next turn is hard for me to understand lol.

They're still thinking like Bob can't kill them *right now*. They need units, needed them yesterday. Cheapest and strongest defenders Str/hammer is the bronze warrior - so you need those enmasse. You can mob Wood golems to death with them, and come out ahead on the hammer count even!
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That academy was smoke
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Kuro Wrote:Turn report: Offered Bob Rice for Ale because why not

Bob already has Rice so he will just decline this deal.
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And there I was wondering how in the hell Kuro was going to deal with Bob.
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That's some serious luck...possibly better than Thoth's events.
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Kuro Wrote:Do Not Get Cocky

nono

Kuro Wrote:Actually, wait.

If Bob can see into my cities due to his floating eye...

And he saw I did NOT have copper before...

But I don't THINK he can see the copper now...

And I don't need it until I attack...

I should delay hooking it up(But keep my Workers in the area) until the turn before I march out, then I can build a 1T Road and instantly upgrade them all to Bronze Weapons, taking Bob by surprise!

...He can't reach any of my cities before my Workers could get there to road it, nor could the barbs or anyone else, so I can always hook it up if I come under attack...

Y/N? How far do Floating Eyes see? Actually, he can probably see the copper...so it doesn't matter, I guess.

lol

Probably safest to hook up now, you only get upgraded if you (a) walk into a city, or (b) start the turn sitting inside the city. Units fortified inside the city therefore don't get upgraded until the next turn. Which would delay Kuro's counterattack.
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