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Tasunke Wrote:I get that posting wolf sets might not be the best tactic, but I don't think it is completely lacking in validity.
Surely you won't hold it against me if I am still suspicious of the two of you ...  Tasunke, if you build a case against us individually, you'll find much better reception - if you still believe we're guilty after trying that. Really, best practice is to try to build a case against every other player individually, and go after whoever's most suspicious. A large part of the reason people are laughing at you is that you're so certain in your conclusions, on so little real data.
Even better - pick your votes based on what you can learn from people's reactions to them. At the point in the game, I'd be shocked if anyone has strong enough data to justify a crusade; the primary goal for the early days is to gather the data and reactions you'll need later when you have more information.
Quote:(although I see no harm in letting one's own opinion be known ... at least if they think they will die soon, and therefore be unable to express such opinion xD)
Tasunke, wolves have no reason to kill you now - as Lewwyn says, you're either a good wolf or a poor villager, and neither of those is a category that wolves want to eat. You might get lynched, true, but the way to fix that is to contribute and get out of the poor villager category. And in any case, there's no reason to talk at night and give the wolves ideas they can use.
Quote:That being said, I think I can agree with Catwalk that such a tactic isn't the best for actually finding wolves ...
So, why are you still doing it? Finding wolves is the goal here, after all.
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Why are people concerned about MJW's power-up? Do you really think the wolves were ever going to night kill him?
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Tasunke Wrote:(although I see no harm in letting one's own opinion be known ... at least if they think they will die soon, and therefore be unable to express such opinion xD) Some extent of self censorship can go a long way towards improving the signal to noise ratio. There's a lot of material to digest in this thread, and the more rambling we have to go through the less likely we are to discover anything useful.
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scooter Wrote:Why are people concerned about MJW's power-up? Do you really think the wolves were ever going to night kill him?
Ask me again once it's daytime.
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scooter Wrote:Why are people concerned about MJW's power-up? Do you really think the wolves were ever going to night kill him?
For one, we don't know that his power-up is the same as Jkaen's and we'll never know since MJW lies all the time.
For two, if that is his power if we have a vig it takes that option off the table.
Its not the end of days by any means, but its better to be avoided considering the unreliability of the person in question.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
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you arguements are so weak gaspar that you pretty much have to be a wolf.  There is no way I would be able to guess Jkaen's role. So unless there is a vig I can not be lying because my power would be useless if I where a wolf.
I would shoot tsuanke if I where a vig. His mega-post is out of character and would have been made at the begining of the day if he where a villager.
Also it is not like you Rowain to waste your vote that has no chance of going anywhere in a critical situation.
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As I mentioned in one of my posts, i was much more worried about being Vig killed than being killed by a wolf.
Either way it equals dead at the end of night, therefore assuming a vig kills me, tonight was my last chance to state my opinion.
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MJW (ya that one) Wrote:Also it is not like you Rowain to waste your vote that has no chance of going anywhere in a critical situation.
Glad somebody else noticed this. Super common wolf tactic. More to come when night phase is over.
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scooter Wrote:Glad somebody else noticed this. Super common wolf tactic. More to come when night phase is over.
I also noticed this, but I don't like questioning people based on their time constraints/avaiablity. The interesting thing is that he changed from you to MJW, in a moment where you were still in danger of being lynched (and MJW had no votes).
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My thoughts on Scooter: He says that hoarding town cred by defending innocents isn't his style. but that's exactly what he did in WW7. When Uberfish made his day 1 gambit claiming to be a disgruntled wolf, Scooter was the only one who reacted with neither confusion nor suspicion, immediately dismissing it as an "obvious" joke. Here, his reactions towards Tasunke and Cyneheard are less implausible, but he seems very eager to be the first to point out that they are likely to be noob villagers. I think all the vets were well aware of this possibility, but as Novice said, that doesn't mean we should refrain from pressuring them. I also think he was quick to clear MJW, which is curious, since he started by emphasizing how important it was to watch him. Jumping all over each other to point out people that appear innocent isn't necessarily all that constructive on day 1, and I do feel like Scooter was overdoing it, possibly trying to look good. All in all I think he made an excellent day 1 lynch target, and I'm a little surprised his lynch didn't gain more traction.
If you know what I mean.
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