Werewolf 7 game thread

[Meiz]

Serious question Meiz - what exactly do you expect of me? I've had exactly 48 hours of experience playing villager, and day1 is not really normal at all anyways, so honestly I'm pretty much brand new to playing villager. What exactly do you expect of me that I'm doing so differently?

I'm expecting you to make logical argumentations without tinfoil hat in your head.

[Catwalk]

For tomorrow, is anyone interested in my theory that the swing to uberfish was motivated partly by a need to protect TT?

[scooter]

I'm expecting you to make logical argumentations without tinfoil hat in your head.

1. My argument against uberfish was a detailed logical argument and you flippantly dismissed the entire thing because something I said had apparently been said before.

2. My current vote on Erebus has been detailed in several different posts and is a clear, logical argument that is also fueled by my experience as a werewolf.

But you choose to ignore those things for reasons that I don't understand because they go against your preconceived notions that I must be a WW so you look at everything with tinted glasses. I could repeat myself over and over again if that means I'm "contributing" but really I don't see the value in noise like that. Id rather speak my piece and then step back and evaluate what others have to say - particularly those who have more time than me and have spent more time analyzing things than me, and are therefore better informed.

[scooter]

For tomorrow, is anyone interested in my theory that the swing to uberfish was motivated partly by a need to protect TT?

Yes.

[Meiz]

1. My argument against uberfish was a detailed logical argument and you flippantly dismissed the entire thing because something I said had apparently been said before.

Yes, I have to dismiss it because I think your own contributions have been low and everything you said was already said by others.

2. My current vote on Erebus has been detailed in several different posts and is a clear, logical argument that is also fueled by my experience as a werewolf.

You suspect Erebus because he said that Rowain was vig killed. And then: "Erebus. Just making less and less sense honestly."

Or did I miss some other argument you made?

Id rather speak my piece and then step back and evaluate what others have to say - particularly those who have more time than me and have spent more time analyzing things than me, and are therefore better informed.

This is the problem, you let others do the thinking and then vote one of the suspects of the day.

And you constant defense against me is dismissing my points and repeating how I have my wolf glasses on.

[Catwalk]

Well, feel free to have a go at it TT was the only one under serious pressure day 1 at 5 votes, with zakalwe and scooter reaching 3 votes.

Tally at 15:27
5v: Twinkletoes89 ( Meiz, Sareln, Erebus, Jkaen, Roland )
3v: Zakalwe ( Injera, Uberfish, Scooter )
3v: scooter ( zakalwe, Rowain, Serdoa )

Tally at 18:39
6v: Uberfish ( Catwalk, Zakalwe, Scooter, Meiz, Jkaen, Lewwyn)
4v: Twinkletoes89 ( Sareln, Erebus, Roland, Gaspar )
2v: Zakalwe ( Uberfish, Injera)

Tally at 20:10
9v: Uberfish ( Catwalk, Zakalwe, Scooter, Meiz, Jkaen, Lewwyn, MNG, Sareln, Twinkletoes)
3v: Twinkletoes89 ( Erebus, Roland, Gaspar)
2v: Zakalwe ( Uberfish, Injera)

Sareln sticks out to me here, his vote had been parked on TT for a long time and may have been an alibi vote on a fellow wolf placed there at a safe time (early accusations were all over the place). When uberfish then seemed an extraordinarily safe vote (not least due to his lack of defense), he then switched with this reasoning:

I'm glad to have heard from Twinkletoes, and am happy to switch off him at this point. I'm not sure enough of anyone to push a new name, so I guess I'll vote Uberfish to do a 2 vote swing from TT to Uber. That way it starts to build some protection against late swings.

Making TT look good and giving himself an out by saying he's not really sure about uberfish at all. His vote switched the tally from 8 vs 4 to 9 vs 3. He was then on for at least an hour after this, taking the time to provide us with several talllies.

Not saying I'm certain about any of this, just throwing out observations and thoughts.

[Catwalk]

Another thing I find interesting about Sareln is that of his 25 posts, 10 are tallies or concern tallies. I think this is a convenient way to appear active and helpful without incriminating yourself in any way.

[zakalwe]

If Sareln and TT were fellow wolves then I think Sareln would have stayed on TT at that point. TT had yet to cast his own vote, and could vote for Uberfish to save his own skin, without being questioned for it.

[scooter]

Yes, I have to dismiss it because I think your own contributions have been low and everything you said was already said by others.

You suspect Erebus because he said that Rowain was vig killed. And then: "Erebus. Just making less and less sense honestly."

Or did I miss some other argument you made?

This is the problem, you let others do the thinking and then vote one of the suspects of the day.

And you constant defense against me is dismissing my points and repeating how I have my wolf glasses on.

Postin this from phone

1. your claim that everything I said about uberfish has been said before is flat out untrue. And even if it WAS true... What was I supposed to do? Invent things? That may be your style but it's not mine.

2. Erebus' vig comments stuck out more than others, to the point where I wondered if he was vig until he said he wasn't. Several others agreed with me, but for some reason you didn't blast them for unoriginal content. Then I also noted that his style read to me as panicky and frustrated that he was caught and could do nothing about it, which I've experienced and seen before as someone who has played 2 full WW games. I also found somE of his posts yesterday to be bizarre - most notably the fakesdit, but others have detailed all that stuff so I wasnt about to rehash it when I've seen plenty enough to believe he's the person I should be voting for.

3. Why is it a problem if I let others do the bulk of the analysis and I digest it and vote. You've always been cool with novice doing that. I have less time than in the past, so that's how I've decided to play this game. And it's not like I've been sitting on the sidelines, but you dismiss everything that I actually do write... So what am I supposed to do?

4. I find a lot of your criticisms of me to be highly hypocritical. Really, am I dismissing you?? Since when? Seems like you criticise me for not spamming as much as you and then when I write a longer post you dismiss it as unoriginal or something ridiculous like that. It's just silly at this point.

[zakalwe]

@Catwalk.

If you think the Uberfish bandwagon was propelled by a desire to save TT, then you should look at those who really got it started. That was you and me, obviously, followed by Scooter, Meiz, and JKaen. Lewwyn was after that, and innocent, and I think the late votes from MNG and Sareln are less incriminating in the context of saving TT. (They could still be wolves of course; everybody needs to place their vote somewhere.)

Of course none of that is particularly meaningful if TT is innocent, so you may be getting a bit ahead of yourself.