PBEM17 Organizing Thread

[novice]

Can we start the snake pick now?

Waiting for StM to weigh in and for somebody to summarize the settings.

Do we need a map maker?

[darrelljs]

Do we need a map maker?

Definitely. With these game settings the starts have to be fairly well balanced, otherwise someone is just going to snowball away with the game.

Kyan, if you feel that strongly I don't mind allowing out of game diplomacy.

Darrell

[spacemanmf]

I don't like this setting at all. It would probably be a clincher for me if im honest. Diplo is important. However, if you do all want to go that route, then mackoti implied above that he was interested so it wouldn't stop the game getting off the ground. I won't be offended if that's the case

I'm interested to know what makes it important. I don't mind playing the game with diplo necessarily - that would be something new - but I'm happy not to have write endless emails talking about random stuff.

[Shoot the Moon]

cuts both ways. I definitely see the usefulness in reloading due to misclicks, but pitboss is also, Memphis in the demogame notwithstanding, much more secure from exploitative moves.

Considering we are all keeping public spoiler threads, I'm already trusting everyone else in the game, so I don't see that as much of an issue.

In regards to other settings:

I would support meaningful islands between players simply as a way to fuel some conflict/struggles and make the diplo and game interesting.

I don't really care either way on diplo. Diplo isn't what draws me to these games, so I don't particularly care what we do with it. I guess I would vote for restrictions on diplo if I had to vote, but I also realize that diplo is what draws some people to these games, so I will cede to others if they want more diplo. Only setting I feel strongly about with diplo is contact only on in-game contact, which I want.

Strongly against huts. I probably would wait for another PBEM to get started if huts are on.

I'd rather not do emperor or Monarch with toroidal. I'd much more look for something along the lines of Monarch non-toroidal or Noble/Prince-toroidal. Hell, even the Noble-toroidal in PBEM 8 feels quite expensive to me.

I'd prefer barbs off (still dislike barbs after PB 3 ) although if it is on a low difficulty it isn't a huge deal.

Don't care about map trading.

I'd prefer no restrictions on leaders/civs, but if there are some slight restrictions it isn't a huge deal.

Also, if anyone else was interested I'd support baning the GLH as I've never been a fan of the wonder on water and continents based maps, but that's just an idea.

[darrelljs]

I strongly prefer no restrictions on leaders/civs.

Darrell

[Kyan]

I'm interested to know what makes it important. I don't mind playing the game with diplo necessarily - that would be something new - but I'm happy not to have write endless emails talking about random stuff.

For me, it adds so much to the game. Diplomacy opens up many many new possibilities. It's more time consuming i agree, but there are only 5 teams in this game so it shouldn't be too bad.

Well, not compared to 'The Divorcer' that was pitboss 3...

As for all the ded lurker offers, you're more than welcome to join my thread. I tend to post a lot more if people ask questions/start discussion etc. I have TT right now though so i don't expect the thread to be silent hehe. Any ideas/suggestions would be more than welcome and weighed appropriately, but please understand that it would be on a ded lurker basis- not partner. Basically, i would get the final say :neenernee

[Kyan]

I strongly prefer no restrictions on leaders/civs.

Darrell

I would be more than happy with this and i appreciated your psot regarding diplo. If we ban a key few, we just make new 'best leaders'. Just look at PBEM's 15 and 16. Hi Hannibal, Mansa Musa, Huayna Capac!

[novice]

Okay I think an acceptable consensus is going to be:

* 5 person
* No leader / civ restrictions (unrestricted leaders), snake draft
* No active Espionage (great spies must be settled / GA)
* No nukes
* No Tech trading
* Custom Continents, one continent per player
* All continents are galley reachable by every other player, without having to go through a 3rd continent
* No coastal capitals
* Continents are not exactly the same but are balanced
* "Lush" settings, with extra resources (maybe each continent has at least one of every resource?)* No War Elephants / Elephant UUs
* Events off
* No permanent alliances
* No vassal states
* Default Starting Units
* The Heroic Epic and West Point can only be built once you have a qualifying unit that has always been yours, and if joined to a GG, the GG was one you spawned yourself
* No restrictions on settling only on "your" continent
* No corporations
* Diplo allowed after having met in-game
* Intermediate islands between continents
* Monarch difficulty, or toroidal Prince
* Normal barbs

Still open for discussion:
* Huts off
* Screenshot trading allowed after having met in-game

Chime in if you want to move something to the "still open for discussion" section, or forever hold your peace.

[novice]

This is your unique chance to screw with us.

We're looking for someone to make a map with the following specifications:

Map settings:
* 5 players
* Custom Continents, one continent per player
* All continents are galley reachable by every other player, without having to go through a 3rd continent
* Intermediate islands between continents
* No coastal capitals
* Continents are not exactly the same but are balanced
* "Lush" settings, with extra resources (maybe each continent has at least one of every resource?)
* Monarch difficulty, or toroidal Prince
* Huts off (still being discussed)

Other game settings:
* No Tech trading
* Events off
* No permanent alliances
* No vassal states
* Default Starting Units
* Normal barbs

[darrelljs]

I thought it was no barbs? Other than that everything looks fine to me.

Darrell