WW14 - The Edge of Reason

[slowcheetah]

Slowcheetah, are you pleading the fifth amendment?

I'm pleading 'went to the pub', last night. I've just got back online. Am reading through the thread now, and will make some comments. If there is anything specific you want to know, ask. There's quite a lot of information to go through and I may miss some things.

[waterbat]

Mattimeo = chicken?

Mattimeo == chicken

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!chicken
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Pindicator

Tt

Bigger

[Rowain]

If there is anything specific you want to know, ask.

First and foremost: Why should we not lynch you?
Second: Whom do you think is a wolf and why.
Third: If you were not on the block whom would you like to lynch right now
Fourth: Will you stay on Sareln or move your vote?

[novice]

A for effort, Waterbat. I can't quite decipher the part about Lewwyn and Slowcheetah. You're saying Lewwyn's relationship to SC implies that SC is village. But I can't decipher what the relationship is.

[Rowain]

....designed to throw the whole village open for mislynches after I'm dead.

What are the mislynches you see in the future?

[Bigger]

What are the mislynches you see in the future?

I dont know, you tell me? You seem to say that if I'm wolf, then novice, zak, sareln and molach are clearly villagers, but if I'm village, they could be guilty as well. I don't really follow why you think this at all, but it seems you are setting up any one of those 4 for a mislynch.


Since I know I will roll village, and I do not suspect any one of those 4, you can understand why I object to your line of reasoning.


Waterbat, I love you too man!! But I'm not a chicken or scum.

[Bigger]

A for effort, Waterbat. I can't quite decipher the part about Lewwyn and Slowcheetah. You're saying Lewwyn's relationship to SC implies that SC is village. But I can't decipher what the relationship is.

since slowcheetah has Lewwyn's nose, he must be chicken?

[slowcheetah]

First and foremost: Why should we not lynch you?
Second: Whom do you think is a wolf and why.
Third: If you were not on the block whom would you like to lynch right now
Fourth: Will you stay on Sareln or move your vote?

Using Rowain's framework:

Part 1

1) I'm assuming you want clarification on my voting patterns

Here's the voting chart:

day1
VM (7) - Bigger Molach Pindicator Rowain Slowcheetah Waterbat Zakalwe
Bigger (4) - Injera Meiz Novice VM
Meiz (1) - Lewwyn
Rowain (1) - Jkaen
Sareln (1) - Twinkletoes89
Waterbat (1) - Sareln
Zakalwe (1) - Mattimeo

day 2
Injera (8) - Bigger Lewwyn Mattimeo Molach Novice Sareln Zakalwe Pindicator
Twinkletoes89 (4) - Injera Jkaen Slowcheetah Waterbat
Jkaen (1) - TT89
Waterbat (1) – Rowain


My switches have been on day 1, Bigger to VM. I was a late switch onto VM.

Why did I switch? I initially voted for Bigger for the reasoning described here.

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=144

I came off of him because the argument although plausible, the bandwagon left Bigger in a hole all day, and I'd probably prematurely closed off Bigger's ability to talk meta and get away with it. Meaning the wolf tells had been eradicated. Consequently, I wasn't sure about Bigger but I thought he was a better candidate than the others. Until Zak and Pindicator came up with these posts late on about VM, and Bigger didn't try to score any points with me by turning on TT. Which I thought was unwolvish.

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=243

So I switched.

Day 2-
I was on TT all day. I thought it was a solid argument, and TT appeared to be cracking under the pressure. Occasionally coming up with a good point, but mostly defending poorly. Lewwyn was insistent that this was villager play, but I didn't completely trust Lewwyn. So I stuck with my guns and kept my vote on TT.

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showpost....tcount=375

Part 2 is coming up. Just figured splitting it up might prevent wall of text.

[Rowain]

Since I know I will roll village, and I do not suspect any one of those 4, you can understand why I object to your line of reasoning.

So who are your wolves? How does the voting make sense then?
You want to leave crumbs if you turn innocent then share your thoughts. Afterall this might be your last 8 hours in this game.

[novice]

So who are your wolves? How does the voting make sense then?
You want to leave crumbs if you turn innocent then share your thoughts. Afterall this might be your last 8 hours in this game.

I believe Bigger answered this just a few hours ago?

Molach, I think, asked me earlier for a list of wolves. here goes:

Most of my info is from day 2. I got very little info from day 1, unfortunately.

almost certainly innocent: zak, novice (still feels wolfish, but I don't see how he could logically be one, so..), then - molach, Sareln
probably innocent: mattimeo

top suspects: pindicator, slowcheetah
In unlikely event pindicator is innocent, then waterbat

secondary suspects:
1. TT (mostly for the claimed Lewwyn killing, yuck)
2. Rowain
3. Jkaen is possible, but would require both TT and Rowain both being innocent

If I had complete control of lynches, I would go pin-slowcheetah- then either Rowain or TT (not sure which first atm).

Given Bigger's commendable activity, I feel better testing him by lynching Slowcheetah first.