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Epic Eight - EGYPT

Swiss Pauli Wrote:Text only posted now.

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1519
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Kodii Wrote:Of course, if people could add little messages at the top of their posts (Like Sullla) indicating who the comments are directed at, that'd make reading that much easier lol .

I'd thought reading the forum threaded would make that slightly easier - because the comments on a report would be replies to the report. But then other people aren't reading/posting threaded so it all gets horribly confusing anyway wink

I shall go back & add titles to the posts I've not quoted in smile
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Don't worry you weren't the only person to report a loss - me too wink I've found it amazing how much help losing Epics has been to my own games lol Even if I'm still losing the Epics, it begins to feel doable sometimes ...
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Well, I guess after that I'm going to have to do a dot map for this game tongue

I'd been wanting to put AI city choice on, but from other comments in this thread (TheGrimm, I think it was) it seems that'll be too fluid as well ... maybe just one representative one would be good though. So if any non-Egyptian player has a screenshot (or can make me one from the worldbuilder) of the AI Egypt cities, that'd be gratefully received! nod
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I see you pulled it out in the end, although that space race certainly looked close! Congratulations. thumbsup

With regards to the report, it would indeed be a good idea to resize or crop some of those screenshots in the future. (Scrolling left and right to read the text gets to be a bit of a pain.) And I hope you won't take this the wrong way, but it was difficult at times to follow what was going on. You sometimes assumed that the reader knew things about your game that you hadn't talked about, or the report was just unclear. Such as:

Quote:Everyone was bugging me for trades, so I picked and chose what to give out and to whom. Again, I started supplying Roosevelt a little better, counting on a war to arrive soon. But when war DID come, it was Caesar vs Mao. That's great. As a matter of fact, I'll even smack Mao around a little also! I could use some more cities! Of course, before joining the war, I demanded 2gpt from Caesar, just because I could hahahahah.

When I read this, I was thinking "so... did he declare war on Caesar or Mao?" I hope you won't mind this critique, I'm just trying to provide some constructive feedback. smile

I was highly amused by your comment that this game lasted 4 hours, and it was your longest ever. My game ended hundreds of years earlier, and took MORE than twice as long! You can probably guess what that says about me. lol

Finally, one suggestion jumps to mind from those final screenshots: I think your research effort would have gone better with less irrigation and more cottages. You were doing a good job with a specialist economy, but late in the game a fully mature town just provides so much more income than a scientist specialist. Anyway, hope you had fun, and thanks for the report! smile
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Sorry to hear about the loss. cry It looks like you're already learning from it though, and that's a good sign. nod

I disagree with you about founding Elephantine (the city on the northern coast with the fishes). Barring a total economic collapse scenario, it's pretty much always worth it to found a coastal city if it has a bonus food resource. You just have to make heavy use of the whip there (whip lighthouse, then granary, then library, etc.)

Based on your one screenshot, the biggest problem I saw was not overexpansion (you had a reasonable number of cities) but upwards development of the cities you did have. In 740AD, you don't have a single city larger than size 6! That's not where you want to be, trust me. smile In my 500AD shot, for example, my core cities are sizes 11, 10, 8, and 7. When in doubt, you want to hook up those resources and then let your cities grow grow grow! (Try reading Blake's report and watch how he focuses on running a high food surplus. I really can't stress how important it is to have cities that grow to larger sizes rapidly.)

I hope that advice helps out a little bit. Thanks for your report! thumbsup
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Pictures aside, that was a very entertaining read; with a really nailbiting finish. Just 4 hours? Mine took nearly 19 hours!!!
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Quote:With regards to the report, it would indeed be a good idea to resize or crop some of those screenshots in the future. (Scrolling left and right to read the text gets to be a bit of a pain.)


I actually cropped them in the report for epic 7. I just forgot about reporting day coming, and even though I had the text report done, and notes of where to put screenshots, I hadn't edited the photos much. I was trying to do it in a hurry last night, but Ifran wasn't resizing the photos for some reason, and I just wanted to get it done, so I settled with posting full size. I had a tennis match and didn't have the time to dedicate to it. You may also notice I had double banners on my pages, that's becuase I was cutting and pasting the html code from epic 7 to epic 8 and didn't take them out. HTML is new to me, and it still takes me a while to get these reports up. So, sorry to all for the big screen shots! frown

Quote:When I read this, I was thinking "so... did he declare war on Caesar or Mao?" I hope you won't mind this critique, I'm just trying to provide some constructive feedback.


First of all, I appreciate ALL feedback! thumbsup As for the report, sorry about that. This is only my second report, so I'm not as detailed as you and some of the others. Plus, I finished Epic 8 about 12 hrs after it became available, but didn't write the report until about 3 weeks later. I guess, when you're recalling the whole game from some 200+ screenshots, you forget you may need to write some of it down more clearly. In the mentioned text... I think Caesar declared on Mao, and I decided to take an opportunity to attack Mao while his forces were elsewhere. Only, he didn't have much in the way of forces anyhow. And after that initial war where Caesar had declared on me, Caesar seemed to go downhill. I think he was fighting depression at having lost an early city to Mr. Noob Extraordinaire. I also had more screenshots planned, and more small cropped shots, too, but in the interest of getting the report up, they didn't make it in.

Quote:Finally, one suggestion jumps to mind from those final screenshots: I think your research effort would have gone better with less irrigation and more cottages. You were doing a good job with a specialist economy, but late in the game a fully mature town just provides so much more income than a scientist specialist. Anyway, hope you had fun, and thanks for the report!


Hmm, how best to put this... I have been learning the detailed aspects of the game here at RB since I first signed on a couple of months ago. So each of my games, private, or the epics/adventures has had a little more focus on one area or another that I need to improve. It just so happens that around the time epic 8 had come out, I had been learning about how to better use specialists and how civs may be deterred from attacking you if you're powerful enough. I was trying to put both of these things into effect. And I actually HADN'T learned yet about the procedures for counting food or irrigation, or using the city governors (that all came more recently) so the irrigation was a combination of needing food sources, which I could recognize and plain old dumb luck. Normally I would have made more cottages, since I had learned the value of them after comments on my epic 7 report, but I was trying to implement fixes to my other weaknesses. So when the next epic comes out, I will try to bring them all together, lol! I might have a less tense ending! In the meantime, I have a thousand reports to read I suppose, as yours is the only one I've read yet eek It took most of my workday, lol. At any rate, thanks so much for the feedback, I will take note of it all! nod
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pling Wrote:I'd been wanting to put AI city choice on, but from other comments in this thread (TheGrimm, I think it was) it seems that'll be too fluid as well ... maybe just one representative one would be good though. So if any non-Egyptian player has a screenshot (or can make me one from the worldbuilder) of the AI Egypt cities, that'd be gratefully received! nod

Do I understand that you want to see where the AI Egypt put its cities? Check out some of the othe civ threads, you will see a lot of Egypt in mine since I really tried to flip Hatty's cities (with plenty of sucess too- even took 7 of Thebes' tiles).

I am glad that the dice rolled Egypt's start more than the others, as I think it was the most interesting due to a few factors, but primarily 1. Expansion in any direction was possible only for this civ really 2. Its traits and start (with horses and gold (if you wanted it smile )) really allowed for a wide range of openings (although seems like most went worker/Animal Husbandry right out the gate).
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Sorry you didn't have much time to play or report. Looks like an impressive Domination win though! hammer
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