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Going to post a new tally soon (so nobody else has to do the same work)
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zakalwe Wrote:That's more like it, Pocketbeetle. 
Rowain
To elaborate briefly on my vote - it is definitely of the "gut feeling" kind. I just got that instant "OMG I knew I had forgotten about someone" feeling when PB suggested Rowain.
Perfect timing, too, since I'll need to go off-line soon and was really hoping for a chance to make my vote count today.
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pocketbeetle Wrote:His stated reason for voting for me originally was that I was being too silent.
Yet when I then became active and started posting, he said THAT was evidence of wolflike behaviour!
This guyâs worse than my ex-girlfriend. She could never make her mind up either.
That's not exactly true. A contradiction would be: "PB is a wolf because he doesn't post" followed by "PB posts a lot, so he's probably a wolf".
What Rowain pointed out in his second argument is that PB only started to post after day 1 was over. It's not a condradiction, because it fits with his past argument (if the argument is good or not is up for discussion, obviously):
PB doesn't post -> PB only started posting after X happened.
It doesn't sound like a proper contradiction to me.
I think PB brought good points to the discussion. But I don't agree with all this sudden "best reasoning of all" that seemed to follow. There wasn't much suspicions against Rowain until now and suddenly everybody is voting against him.
I can't understand why this is such a compeling case. That being said, I find that the argument has some merits and I can't find much reasons to oppose lynching Rowain out of the top of my head. Since I don't have time to read all the thread again (I admit that I haven't payed much attention to Rowains posting), that's all I'll probably say about it until the lynching.
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Look the thing is, I've been pressing PB too. I know I'm not a wolf, but I made up my mind that PB would be my target right after I lynched MJW. I don't know if all that is enough to lynch Rowain.
I mean I was really suspicious of the way the train moved onto Cull but even more importantly I was suspicious of the way that it was moving off of PB. I agree with the reasoning that he's been quiet, but isn't it a bit starnge that all of sudden he pulls up a manifesto and EVERYBODY just goes lets lynch him? Way to easy... Man I could basically do that to anybody! Especially anybody who's already decided their vote and thereby is pressing that vote for others.
Am I strange that I had Rowain on my trusted list?
“The wind went mute and the trees in the forest stood still. It was time for the last tale.”
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Lynch:
7v: Rowain (Pocketbeetle, novice, Meiz, Selrahc, zakalwe, Serdoa, JKaen)
6v: Pocketbeetle ( Rowain, Lewwyn, Mardoc, Fire & Ice, Cull, scooter )
5v: Selrahc ( Ichabod, uberfish, Irgy, Bruindane, Gold ergo sum )
2v: novice ( Mr Nice Guy, sandover)
1 Not voted:
Roland
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I love this game 
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Lewwyn, when I look at past experience, when you think that Rowain is innocent, then he is for me surely a target I should vote to lynch 
But, lets look what could (and should in my opinion) happen:
Rowain gets lynched and is innocent:
- We lynch PB and if he is a wolf we then subsequently lynch JKaen
Why JKaen? Because with what we have right now I find it suspicious that he first votes as Rowain asked to and now switches because Rowain did exactly what he said, namely giving no explanation as why to lynch PB. Of course he could have misunderstood it but he is suspected from some anyway.
Rowain gets lynched and is a wolf:
- We celebrate.
Honestly, I feel we should have lynched Cull. If we had lynched him today we would have got some information about what happened on Day1. Was novice switching to a wolf? Or was he only switching between villagers? Did the bandwagon try to lynch a wolf or not? All that stuff would help us to understand better whats going on. Instead we are doing the same stuff as on Day 1: Voting without having much idea and mostly on gut feeling and only a little bit of evidence. But as several people stated this is because we have nothing more to go for.
And then I look around to understand why we are not going to lynch Cull and whom do I find? Rowain. Giving directions, asking for support without explanation, making sure that we do not go back to the votes from yesterday. Even better is that he asks as to vote for PB and the only explanation we can find is that he thinks PB doesn't post enough. But it is the same for Cull. Only that a lynch of Cull would give us much more data to work with. Really, if we want to lynch someone who is quiet, then we should lynch Cull, not PB.
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Lewwyn Wrote:Am I strange that I had Rowain on my trusted list?
Yes. :neenernee
Seriously though, can you define why he's been on your trusted list? Honestly, I was as puzzled about your stance on him on Day 1 as I am now, so I'm really interested in hearing your reasoning. Frankly, I'm inclined to vote for him just because I flat-out don't trust him one iota, but the sudden bandwagon is mildly alarming to me.
Of course, I wouldn't put it past one 'Wolf (or multiple) to throw another under the bus just to save his own hide (uberfish). Maybe that's part of what we're seeing. Or, maybe it's just that lots of people felt the same way about Rowain as I do, and just never spoke up about it.
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Roland, you must have the lowest vote to posts ratio in the game. Get off the fence, you're scaring the sheep.
I have to run.
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novice Wrote:Get off the fence, you're scaring the sheep.
If you know what I mean.
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