WW11 - Civilization

[slowcheetah]

Read up and you'll see that I don't suspect them of being a wolf pair. This kind of mutual reassurance would indeed be far too risky. I suspect Lewwyn of being a wolf, and have no particular suspicion of Mardoc. In the event that Lewwyn turns up wolf, I'd consider Mardoc mostly cleared. I find it particularly suspicious that Mardoc was under little suspicion at the time Lewwyn pronounced his verdict. I can understand wanting to defend someone who's at risk of hanging if you feel the arguments against him are poorly founded. I don't see the same benefit when it's someone not under suspicion. There was little interest in Lewwyn's earlier suspicions of Mardoc, I think he did his analysis solely to appear helpful (without actually doing anything).

At the time when Lewwyn researched into Mardoc's innocent there was virtually no solid leads anywhere (except maybe that lynching scooter will reveal information one way or the other). Lewwyn's analysis post actually seemed very reasonable to me to narrow the field, and Mardoc was an easy pick for it due to his smaller amount of posting (compared to some)

You could say that regardless of what arguments I use against Lewwyn. Are you saying that I cannot succesfully pursue a suspicion of Lewwyn if he ignores me? To me, that makes him look even more suspicious. Blatantly ignoring accusations of you is not pro-town, and he has no excuse for ignoring me other than being grumpy.[/quote]

No, I don't believe you can successfully pursue a suspicion of Lewwyn, he reacts like that to you everytime you say anything to him. That consistency means it's impossible to tell anything from him ignoring you.

I find it interesting how selectively you respond to my points. My last question was if there was any doubt in your mind about the sincerity of Lewwyn's outbursts, and you instead reply that I seem increasingly wolf to you. I also find it interesting how certain you are in spite of apparently not really having read up on the exchanges. I have a hard time seeing this as villager play, and I think you'll have a hard time explaining yourself if I hang. That said, if you and Lewwyn are both wolves you're making a very risky play here. I don't see any way you'd defend him this strongly if he was your wolf buddy based on a suspicion that isn't gaining much traction.

Firstly, I did read through the exchanges I just haven't reread Lewwyn's Mardoc post, which you took to mean that I hadn't reread your posts. I search for the multi-flavoured explosions and couldn't find it, but didn't think it mattered too much because I had confirmed your first two Lewwyn statements were accurate so assumed that one was. I don't really think your argument had much merit (although admittedly I didn't fully explain it), the flipflopping reads to me like just terms of expression, particularly when combined with my point that lewwyn hates anything when you say it.

In multicoloured explosions he had to find a way to differentiate between Mardoc's and Ichabods innocence, since he wanted to indicate they were both innocent he wouldn't have used terms like Ichabod seems less innocent, multi-coloured explosions seems a bit of a stretch but people like to use extravagant phrasing.

You asked me about my current assessment of your wolfy status which was why I answered. I had already said my thoughts on whether lewwyn was genuine in a previous post (I thought he was leaning towards innocence which indicates that In do think he's being genuine).

[slowcheetah]

Also your suspicion isn't gaining much traction because it was never supposed to. Which was my original point, you set it up so you didn't have much of an influence on things but looked like you did.

My posting so far was intended to be an attack on your villagerness, not a defense of Lewwyn.

[Catwalk]

No, I don't believe you can successfully pursue a suspicion of Lewwyn, he reacts like that to you everytime you say anything to him. That consistency means it's impossible to tell anything from him ignoring you.

In the past Lewwyn hasn't ignored me, though. He's kept bashing my skull in to the best of his ability, and expressed every bit as much frustration as here. And we've been going at this for several games now. I don't buy his explanation for going off on me from the word go, not even if he's sad over FFH14.

Firstly, I did read through the exchanges I just haven't reread Lewwyn's Mardoc post, which you took to mean that I hadn't reread your posts. I search for the multi-flavoured explosions and couldn't find it, but didn't think it mattered too much because I had confirmed your first two Lewwyn statements were accurate so assumed that one was. I don't really think your argument had much merit (although admittedly I didn't fully explain it), the flipflopping reads to me like just terms of expression, particularly when combined with my point that lewwyn hates anything when you say it.

In multicoloured explosions he had to find a way to differentiate between Mardoc's and Ichabods innocence, since he wanted to indicate they were both innocent he wouldn't have used terms like Ichabod seems less innocent, multi-coloured explosions seems a bit of a stretch but people like to use extravagant phrasing.

Again, I'm amazed at how much leniency you're giving him. I don't see how this generousity makes sense without knowing his alignment.

Also your suspicion isn't gaining much traction because it was never supposed to. Which was my original point, you set it up so you didn't have much of an influence on things but looked like you did.

I didn't set up anything, and I didn't goad Lewwyn into his current fit of rage. I even contained myself a bit to avoid the current reaction, as I think he's being wildly anti-town right now whether he's wolf or villager.

[Rowain]

And now to something completly diffrent.

My starting tech is Theology, yours?

[Tasunke]

Code of Laws

[slowcheetah]

Again, I'm amazed at how much leniency you're giving him. I don't see how this generousity makes sense without knowing his alignment.

I didn't set up anything, and I didn't goad Lewwyn into his current fit of rage. I even contained myself a bit to avoid the current reaction, as I think he's being wildly anti-town right now whether he's wolf or villager.

As explained earlier, I believe Lewwyn is innocent leaning, whereas you are leaning towards guilty. I don't really have anything more to add to this argument. I believe you set the fight up, you say you didn't. If voting for you gains some more traction we'll get to find out who was right.

And now to something completly diffrent.

My starting tech is Theology, yours?

Polytheism. Told you we had different religions :neenernee .

[Rowain]

Polytheism. Told you we had different religions :neenernee .

This will soon be rectified. I have huge experience with polytheistic heathens- just ask the saxons :D.

[Mardoc]

Catwalk, I'm holding auditions for the part of NoLongerVotedByMe. Interested? Of course you are!

I've got a couple questions. First, could you explain your reasoning here:

Ideally, we should have spent the time discussing which two targets to focus votes on.

You've been outspoken that the perfect number of lynch candidates is two. Why?



Second, assume for a moment that barring this:

I'm a wolf, kill me kill me kill me

that you won't get Lewwyn lynched today. Who else would you go after, and why?

I've got things to do today, so I won't promise quick responses, but I will make every effort to be back before the lynch.

[Rowain]

Just while you are here. What is your starting tech Mardoc?

[Mardoc]

Just while you are here. What is your starting tech Mardoc?

I'm not convinced that revealing it would help the village.