February 24th, 2011, 21:54
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Lewwyn Wrote:Really? Why is the only option that they were "saving" a comrade? Couldn't it be that there really were 3 innocents on the block that day? Sunrise, Meiz and Gaspar? Guys please remember at one point we had a 3 way tie going in the voting.
You've been beating this drum constantly but it's all conjecture. You're saying it COULD be that all three were innocent. Okay? It COULD be true that I ate a taco last night. See? But you keep beating the drum about how they were probably just all innocent, which is perfect because this theory makes you and the people you trust the most look the best. I'm not interested in what makes the people I trust the most look the best, I'm interested in what wins us the game, which is why I've not at all been hesitant to criticize anyone who I thought was getting in the way of that. If winning the game is my #1 target, then haphazard's theory makes much more sense. Yours is definitely not impossible, but it's also less likely.
February 24th, 2011, 22:18
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scooter Wrote:You've been beating this drum constantly but it's all conjecture. You're saying it COULD be that all three were innocent. Okay? It COULD be true that I ate a taco last night. See? But you keep beating the drum about how they were probably just all innocent, which is perfect because this theory makes you and the people you trust the most look the best. I'm not interested in what makes the people I trust the most look the best, I'm interested in what wins us the game, which is why I've not at all been hesitant to criticize anyone who I thought was getting in the way of that. If winning the game is my #1 target, then haphazard's theory makes much more sense. Yours is definitely not impossible, but it's also less likely.
Actually thats the first time I even mention the possibility of 3 innocents on the block, and the first time I brought up the 3 way tie.
February 24th, 2011, 22:20
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Lewwyn Wrote:Actually thats the first time I even mention the possibility of 3 innocents on the block, and the first time I brought up the 3 way tie.
My mistake then. I'm probably thinking of someone else.
February 24th, 2011, 22:48
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Gaspar Wrote:This is entirely a matter of perception. I've personally found many of the reactions quite illuminating. And the last post in particular was quite a bit of fun to write. As I've said from Day 1, there's more than one way to hang a wolf, and sometimes you can get more from rattling cages than you can by walls of logic or magical vote charts. 
While I appreciate the efforts, I wasn't a suspect of anyone on Day 1, and nothing was stopping the Selrahc train on Day 3, so I think I only owe you one lifesaving action. 
Nonetheless, I'm happy to return the favor today. I've already voted for the mayor and the lynch, so I won't post again until Day 5. The wolves would only eat me at this point out of spite, for reasons I stated in my last post, not to mention the seer-meatshield we have at this point.
Indeed, you're doing exactly as you should. At the very least we should get some enjoyment out of antagonizing our enemies - after all, they're making sure to do the same for us.
As for your vow of silence - disavow. At the very least you stand the chance of saving yourself from your persecutors. And who knows? You may catch a 'Wolf unawares. I know I'm personally enjoying the show.
February 24th, 2011, 23:27
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Scooter Wrote:One thing we all need to realize is that confirming the seer isn't a priority anymore. The seer is dead. If it's sunrise, he'll die tonight. If it's someone who's keeping quiet and sunrise is lying or he is the fool, they'll die tonight. Either way, the wolves WILL kill the seer tonight, and no one can do a thing about it. I suggest we let the sunrise/uberfish feud settle itself tomorrow. If sunrise dies tonight, we'll lynch uberfish tomorrow and we'll be 100% sure we've got the right guy. If someone else dies tonight, then we either lynch sunrise (faker WW) or we write him off as the fool, in which case he's a regular villager, and uberfish must be re-evaluated.
Scooter, care to go into a little more detail? I'm curious how you know that the seer dies tonight no matter what. Do the wolves know more than the village at large? Do you know more than the village at large?
You can get a look at a t-bone by looking up the bulls ass but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
February 24th, 2011, 23:37
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Mr. Nice Guy Wrote:Scooter, care to go into a little more detail? I'm curious how you know that the seer dies tonight no matter what. Do the wolves know more than the village at large? Do you know more than the village at large?
It seems like a logical jump to me? I'll ask it this way - why on earth would the wolves let the seer live tonight? I saw your post, thought about it for a couple minutes, and I couldn't come up with an answer to that question. If sunrise really IS the seer, they will kill him and fire&ice will tell us he was the seer. If he's a WW, they won't kill him. Made sense to me...? If I'm overlooking something, please share (it's late for me so it's entirely possible)
February 24th, 2011, 23:45
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scooter Wrote:It seems like a logical jump to me? I'll ask it this way - why on earth would the wolves let the seer live tonight? I saw your post, thought about it for a couple minutes, and I couldn't come up with an answer to that question. If sunrise really IS the seer, they will kill him and fire&ice will tell us he was the seer. If he's a WW, they won't kill him. Made sense to me...? If I'm overlooking something, please share (it's late for me so it's entirely possible)
Okay I'll rephrase. Also late for me, so forgive me if my control of language is poor right now.
Scooter's OP Wrote:If it's someone who's keeping quiet and sunrise is lying or he is the fool, they'll die tonight. So hypothetically, if I am the seer, I die tonight? The wolves somehow know who the real seer is? How do you know that? As far as I can tell you are the first and only person to let slip that if Sunrise isn't the "real" seer, he will not die tonight and instead the "real" seer will die.
That revelation seems a little fur-n-fangs to me, and I'm wondering if you can elaborate a little more on it. Maybe by telling us who the "real" seer is? Maybe by telling us which wolf will cast the deciding night vote?
You can get a look at a t-bone by looking up the bulls ass but I'd rather take the butcher's word for it.
February 24th, 2011, 23:54
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Mr. Nice Guy Wrote:So hypothetically, if I am the seer, I die tonight? The wolves somehow know who the real seer is? How do you know that? As far as I can tell you are the first and only person to let slip that if Sunrise isn't the "real" seer, he will not die tonight and instead the "real" seer will die.
That revelation seems a little fur-n-fangs to me, and I'm wondering if you can elaborate a little more on it. Maybe by telling us who the "real" seer is? Maybe by telling us which wolf will cast the deciding night vote?
Honestly, I simply said something that was not accurate. I don't know that, and you are right, if you are the real seer, you might be safe after all.
February 24th, 2011, 23:57
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Mr. Nice Guy Wrote:So hypothetically, if I am the seer, I die tonight? The wolves somehow know who the real seer is? How do you know that? As far as I can tell you are the first and only person to let slip that if Sunrise isn't the "real" seer, he will not die tonight and instead the "real" seer will die.
That revelation seems a little fur-n-fangs to me, and I'm wondering if you can elaborate a little more on it. Maybe by telling us who the "real" seer is? Maybe by telling us which wolf will cast the deciding night vote?
Sorry to double-post, but I didn't want to edit and all.
Another thought occurred to me. If you are the seer (to follow that example), not even the werewolves could know that. Think about it - Selrahc (the devil) visited sunrise to see what he was. If they had the seer figured out already, they wouldn't have bothered visiting sunrise, because they would've known he was a WW/fool.
I'm just pointing this out to prove that it was an honest mistake after a long day and not a WW slip. 
February 25th, 2011, 00:05
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scooter Wrote:Sorry to double-post, but I didn't want to edit and all.
Another thought occurred to me. If you are the seer (to follow that example), not even the werewolves could know that. Think about it - Selrahc (the devil) visited sunrise to see what he was. If they had the seer figured out already, they wouldn't have bothered visiting sunrise, because they would've known he was a WW/fool.
I'm just pointing this out to prove that it was an honest mistake after a long day and not a WW slip.
TOO LATE WW SCUM!
DIEEEE!
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