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WW 34--The Slugfest!

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(January 23rd, 2015, 05:30)Jkaen Wrote: Yes it seems nobody agrees and I may have been wrong. Regardless my vote either goes to novice who must be lying or self admitted traitor brick

Why must Novice be lying? If you are telling the truth, but are also in Ball's contact list, isn't the only way that could have happened if your delivery to sunrise or novice was switched somehow so it ended up at Ball's instead? And knowing that, wouldn't you assume that it was possible that Novice is telling the truth?
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Lewwyn, Novice, Zak, do you guys have any reads on Mattimeo?

Mattimeo, do you have any reads on them?
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Gaz and Matt you need to switch your vote to Brick.
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(January 23rd, 2015, 06:52)Jowy Wrote: Gaz and Matt you need to switch your vote to Brick.

Jowy, I love your confidence and your plan isn't a bad one, but being ordered around in werewolf makes the Glum feel contrary. We have 12 hours left before deadline, I'm not interested in locking down my vote yet.
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(January 23rd, 2015, 06:59)Gazglum Wrote:
(January 23rd, 2015, 06:52)Jowy Wrote: Gaz and Matt you need to switch your vote to Brick.

Jowy, I love your confidence and your plan isn't a bad one, but being ordered around in werewolf makes the Glum feel contrary. We have 12 hours left before deadline, I'm not interested in locking down my vote yet.

I agree. I hate it. But it must be done because this is not werewolf this is mjwolf.
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Quote:*crickets*

Town fail.

I still think we should be able to win this in a walk from here, but we could be doing better. We still need to setup targets for future rounds as well.

Jowy, do you think we should actually be stopping our reads and discussions, to avoid helping traitors? I get the feeling that most of us are developing some pretty strong opinions on what the town/scum division here is, but we're holding them back.
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BRick's last manifesto

So I was pretty much done, but I had a bit of an epiphany, and figured I'd see if I could rouse you one last time.

It's 100% obvious that I am scum and Jowy is village. There's no disputing that, and no need to. What I want you all to entertain today, is the fact that I think the majority of us left are ALSO scum, and that we can win this game today. First, take a look at some of Jowy's statements from the last day.

(January 21st, 2015, 07:56)Jowy Wrote: BG on me please.

(January 21st, 2015, 08:28)Jowy Wrote: We should mass claim tomorrow, I think I can break the game.

(January 21st, 2015, 08:52)Jowy Wrote: Just make sure I don't get shot. That's all for now, enjoy the night guys smile

(January 22nd, 2015, 19:05)Jowy Wrote: We're not breaking the game today. We don't need to. I know enough :P

I have people who I know I can trust 100%.

(January 23rd, 2015, 03:07)Jowy Wrote: Mattimeo, Brick is bluffing. He will die, trust me.

(January 23rd, 2015, 04:13)Jowy Wrote: Me. He is town. Now vote to lynch Brick.

(January 23rd, 2015, 04:20)Jowy Wrote: You know what, I'll tell you before I die. Now vote Brick.

So apparently, Jowy is a seer/scum-only-vig who had enough information and confidence to WIN THE GAME after the 2nd lynch. For all we know he's night-kill-proof too thanks to Jkaen. Even if not, that's immensely powerful.

Next, look at the roles distribution of the people who are confirmed dead:

Quote:BaII the Traitor
Rowain the Traitor
sunrise089 the Traitor
Goreripper the NRA member Traitor (a weaker Jkaen)


Qgqqqqq the Graverobber (able to steal anyone's ability and act during day AND night)
Bobchillingworth the HyperBomb (Paranoid Bomb Owner)

It seems abundantly clear to me that this is a game where the villagers are the ones with the really good powers, and the bad guys don't have them. Also, it seems pretty clear that (at some point at least), the bad team had a majority of players. Otherwise, this game would be stupid, giving the minority less power. (I'm continuing in the hope that it isn't stupid.)

So, let's take a look at the numbers.

If there is an equal amount of villagers and scum left now, then the final counts would be 7 villagers, and 9 scum. I would like to wager that with this weird setup that MJW has going on, giving the empowered minority barely under 50% of the starting numbers is absurd. Therefore, the numbers must be different. Let's say there's one more scum than we estimated before, that would give 6 villagers to 10 scum. Since in this game villagers are the empowered minority and scum are the confused majority, that would still not be too fair, but it is possible.

Where am I going with this? Let's take it mostly from Jowy himself:

(January 22nd, 2015, 19:05)Jowy Wrote: This is a traitor game as you might have noticed. Scum are traitors who don't know who each other are, and they don't know how many of them there are. They have someone who makes kills. They started with numbers that are higher than the usual 20-25%, but they are down 4 players to our 2 so they can't have a majority.

I believe everything in bold is correct, and that the text in italics is a lie. Scum are the majority from game start, but I believe that we still have a majority right now. That would mean we needed a 6 village 10 traitor/scum split or one that favored scum more from the start, which I think is possible. If we do not, we'd have that absurd 9 scum 7 village split going on, or something worse, and if that is the case, the game is already over, we would have had to find this all out Day 1 in order to win. While I think MJW is the kookiest GM ever on here, I think he would at least create something that's theoretically winnable on both sides.

Which is why at this point, I'm making my last statement:

If you are scum-aligned in any way, vote Jowy today and as soon as possible.

I believe that we still have a majority, but that our chance to win is seriously diminishing. You can feel it in the air, the uncertainty today even with me and Jowy making big statements. You've seen that the village is super powerful, and that won't change. Jkaen probably gave Jowy a vest anyways, so he will be a un-night-kill-able vig seer. Unless you are scum with powers better than THAT, it's no use trying to play the "Oh I'm really a villager now" card.

If there are fewer scum aligned players left, this game is already over.
If the scum lose the vote today, than the game will be over.

If you are scum aligned YOU MUST VOTE JOWY TODAY, it is your only winning move. It might be a crazy risk to make, but if you are also scum aligned, this is what I think is our last hope, and you will either go out in a blaze of glory, or win triumphantly. Otherwise, you'll be picked off by Jowy and friends, and will die with a whimper.

Also: Jowy knows this is the case, which is why he is bullying everyone to vote me now and shut up about anything else. He doesn't want people to keep questioning because he knows he is in the minority. Don't let him bully you into a loss.

JOWY

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Vote Brick. Right fucking now town. It could be your last chance IF the split is 5:5. If they get Jkaen to 5 first, we lose the game.
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(January 23rd, 2015, 08:41)Jowy Wrote: Vote Brick. Right fucking now town. It could be your last chance IF the split is 5:5. If they get Jkaen to 5 first, we lose the game.

HE IS SCARED, DO NOT LISTEN TO HIM
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