Werewolf 3 Game Thread

[Lewwyn]

YES!

Oh Boy! I was so nervous about this, glad that we got a happy ending.

While lurking the first two games I had no idea that the game would be so much fun to play! I'm having a wonderful time!

I know its pretty amazing once you're actually playing. You get all tingly all the time.

[Sandover]

Novice apparently has two votes + a tiebreak since Sandover is going to follow him around for whatever reason. I really dislike this play.

But you can't argue with the result, can you?

[pocketbeetle]

But you can't argue with the result, can you?

Is your faith in our great mayor, Novicus the First, renewed?

[Sandover]

Is your faith in our great mayor, Novicus the First, renewed?

Stay tuned and you'll find out tomorrow.

[Mardoc]

lol, well the Rowain train was launched as an attempt to save Selrahc and PB. Who started said train? PB. Who moved quickly onto PB's train? Selrahc. If it had come down to Rowain being lynched, well, I may have tried to save him. I was pretty much holding out though in hopes we'd have a PB swing.

If anything this only help to solidify the case against PB.

I'm sorry Lewwyn, but I can't see this at all. And here's why

Votes for Rowain (after pocketbeetles vote), based on forum clock:

13.45 novice
13.50, Meiz
13.52 Selrahc
14.02 Zakalwe
14.13 Serdoa
14.14 Jkaen

If Rowain is a villager (which I strongly doubt)... well it is what it is then. We still have all this data to analyze later

I would not take this "leap of faith", unless I would already have pre-existing doubts for Rowain.

Rowain's bandwagon got its initial push from pocketbeetle, novice, and Meiz. Sure, Selrahc slipped on to it, but novice was both one who started it rolling and put the final nails into Selrahc's coffin. And Meiz made sure to document the push. It wouldn't have been a wagon except for those three.

I think you're falling into the same fallacy I did - these three players seem to think alike and have similar timezones, so they seem to be coordinating, but that's apparently not actually a sign that they're wolves.

And, I have to agree, Pocketbeetle's post was very convincing, if you weren't fixed on your own private theory (like, um, me).

[Rowain]

I think it was a well coordinated train. Of course the wolfs might not be those that vote first (that would look suspicious) but there was no need for Selrahc to jump against me if not for saving PB. He was of course not the only wolf to do so.

Just take a look when PB posted it was 7 votes PB 6 votes Selrahc 5 votes novice.
And 3 people out of those that voted to lynch novice were under the first 5 to join the Rowain bandwagon! (Selrahc, Meiz and Serdoa)

If PB were innocent they could have easily voted for him(to save Selrahc) but they didn't. They waited until they had a chance to get rid of me.

[Lewwyn]

Rowain's bandwagon got its initial push from pocketbeetle, novice, and Meiz. Sure, Selrahc slipped on to it, but novice was both one who started it rolling and put the final nails into Selrahc's coffin. And Meiz made sure to document the push. It wouldn't have been a wagon except for those three.

I think you're falling into the same fallacy I did - these three players seem to think alike and have similar timezones, so they seem to be coordinating, but that's apparently not actually a sign that they're wolves.

And, I have to agree, Pocketbeetle's post was very convincing, if you weren't fixed on your own private theory (like, um, me).

Are you kidding me? Novice obviously used PBs post as a jumping off point but I sincerely believe his true target was, in fact, Selrahc. Obviously if a wolf creates a convincing enough train he can get his fellow wolves to hop on and save themselves. I have no doubt that novice was planning on switching his vote around a great deal tonight in order try and trap a wolf, in this case Selrahc.

I do not believe for a second that PB, novice, Meiz, were working together. I do believe that PB and Selrahc were working together. One creates a plausible post and then the other waits until a few votes are on and "slips" in. How am I falling into your "fallacy" pray tell? When I was a mason in WW2 Luddite and I made sure never to follow each other on to votes, always keeping at least 1 or 2 votes between us. AT least that was for as long as he was alive. My point is that we cognizant of the fact that connections could be made on votes in quick succession. Thats why I do not believe PB and novice were working together. Meiz I include as well. Notice Selrahcs vote came 2 minutes after Meiz's vote. He saw the distance created and followed up.

I actually found PBs theory to be pure conjecture based on his own self serving viewpoint. Rowain was tryign to lynch him. He had fixation on him, he was vocal about it. A wolf would attempt to always leave himself an out. Selrahc himself said that in his top 10 things to look for in a WW. Now could someone have tried to buck that stereotype? Yes, but let me tell you, Rowain IS acting different from WW2. In WW2 he NEVER fixated on a target. He's playing completely differently because he's a villager. PBs theory is colored in the fact that Rowain is attacking him. Go back and read that post thinking "what if I were a WW?" It works both ways Mardoc. Nothing in that post is proof. Everthing is based on his subjective opinion of comments Rowain has made.

You're still naive in my eyes.

[Lewwyn]

Hmm actually that statement about Rowain never fixating on a target in WW2 may be a bit open to interpretation. By never been fixated on a target I mean that in WW2 Rowain never took the initiative to lynch someone. He was more opportunistic in that he would post opinions and suspicions about people but he would reserve his vote until he could join a train.

Who else has reserved their vote in this game? Pocketbeetle for one, Roland for two. Pocketbeetle I believe is a WW.

Roland I am just now thinking about. plausible switch to Selrahc to create credibility. It makes sense. At the point that Roland switched Selrahc was a forgone conclusion because Rowain would probably vote to save himself, and (as Roland himself noted) I would probably have voted for Selrahc to save Rowain. Considering this, it was forgone that Selrahc was going to die. So Roland hops on the "innocent train". So far he's batting 100 (not voting MJW, voting Selrahc). Thats not the Roland I know He's got some inside information here.

[uberfish]

YES we nailed Selrahc, we're back in the game.

I think we need to get to the bottom of this PB vs Rowain business next and figure out who was trying to save Selrahc.

[novice]

So far he's batting 100 (not voting MJW, voting Selrahc). Thats not the Roland I know He's got some inside information here.

I had to laugh at this. You two are like an old married couple.