Medieval Start PitBoss

[scooter]

It was brought to my attention that starting with explorers can lead to some nasty chokes (the starting archers can't kill them easily); how do you feel about starting with two scouts instead?

This seems reasonable to me.

[scooter]

CtH Byzantines are okay, they're strong but not overwhelming.

To be clear, Byzantines don't have any nerfs in CtH, which was news to me a few minutes ago. Are we sure we don't want to ban this one? I agree we don't need to ban anything else, but I sort of suspect the presence of Phracts will result in the whole game revolving around who has them and who their neighbors are.

[yuris125]

You don't like getting phracted do you?

I don't mind either way

[pindicator]

I'm game

[Thoth]

I'm fine with banning Byzantium.

Also Vikings if water is a factor.

[Thoth]

There is an issue with using missionaries to found religions: When they spread they found the religion and the religion spreads but the Holy City isn't awarded. Tested with an Islamic Missionary and then a Buddhist Missionary. In FFH if the religion is first spread via a Missionary unit the Holy City is awarded to that city correctly.

[coldrain]

This game setup is looking very interesting. Anyone interested in a dedlurker? Bear in mind, that I have zero experience with CtH and my first ever PBEM is still ongoing. I'm looking into learning more about the mod, so I don't mind throwing around some ideas or just generating some extra banter in the thread.

[Tarkeel]

There is an issue with using missionaries to found religions: When they spread they found the religion and the religion spreads but the Holy City isn't awarded. Tested with an Islamic Missionary and then a Buddhist Missionary. In FFH if the religion is first spread via a Missionary unit the Holy City is awarded to that city correctly.

I just ran a small test on this, with everyone starting with missionaries (adding in Islam as the fifth). The AI obligingly used their missionaries in the capitals, but the holy cities did not appear on T6. Instead, each of the capitals spawned two matching missionaries, and somehoe the two missing religions got founded; one of them even in a barbarian city.

Edit: Starting with pre-placed capitals marked as holy cities didn't help much; they spawned a missionary and then the last two religions got founded in barbarian cities.

[yuris125]

Is it technically possible to wait for religions to be founded randomly, and then make the remaining player's capital the islam holy city via WB?

[Commodore]

Is it technically possible to wait for religions to be founded randomly, and then make the remaining player's capital the islam holy city via WB?

I know this is possible. I'm hearing that preplaced barb cities are screwing this up though?

Leaning towards the Byzantine ban as it is unnerfed, mixing my mod versions there.