[spoilers] Pindicator and Regoarrarr - Bismark of Ethiopia

[pindicator]

That'll be a nice commerce city, all right. I like how we still gain +15gpt even after settling it, so value added from the start!

Here is the Moai plan; sorry i didn't get it up yesterday.

115. Whip the worker, citizens on the cow and fish. Worker roads.
End of turn: Size 2 23/24f. 82/250h in moai. 97/60 in worker. 27h overflow. 33 turns of anger.
116. Citizens on cow & plains forest.(OR gained). Worker fin road
2 27/24f. 122/250 in moai. 32a.
117. Worker chops forest outside of 1TON's BFC. New citizen is angry.
3 5/26f. 128/250h. 31a.
118. Worker chops. Anger wears off, now happy citizen to fish.
3 12/26f. 134/250h. 30a
119. Worker chop fin (+13h).
3 19/26f. 156/250h. 29a
120. 3 26/26f. 162/250h. 28a
121. Swap production to a worker. Citizens work Fish, fish, coast.
4 0/28f. 9/40 into worker. 27a.
122. 4 0/28f. 18/40f into worker. 26a
123. Citizens to Fish & cows.
4->2 0/24f. 97/60h. 25a. 35a
124. Citizens to cows and plains forest
2 4/24f. 202/250. 34a
125. 2 8/28f. 208/250. 33a
126. Worker starts chopping plains forest.
2 12/28f. 214/250.
127. 2 16/28f. 220250
128. 2 20/28f. 250/250. Chop finishes

[pindicator]

I was about to say how it may make more sense to delay moai a few turns so we could grow with fishes and whip between sizes 6 and 4, but then i remembered our happiness situation. Hopefully by the time Moai finishes we'll have a few more happies.

Also, i forgot to account for christianity giving +1 happiness. That should only affect turn 117 - the new citizen will not be angry and should work the fish for growth.

No wait, it will affect more than that because we aren't getting the "free" angry citizen when building a worker. Well, quick fix would be to have citizens working fish, cow, coast, coast to still hit that "magic" 9f+h/t on turns 121 & 122 needed to get a worker at 18/60. Hitting 20/60 in the worker may only turn it into a 1-pop whip for the worker; i haven't tested it yet in game but mathematically 30h x 1.35 = 40.5

Edit: this won't work either; the 3h will get multiplied by 1.35 to get an additional 4th hammer. Still, whip the worker this turn and i'm working on a corrected version right now

[pindicator]

Revised plan:

115. Whip the worker, citizens on the cow and fish. Worker roads.
End of turn: Size 2 23/24f. 82/250h in moai. 97/60 in worker. 27h overflow. 33 turns of anger.
116. Citizens on cow & plains forest.(OR gained). Worker fin road
2 27/24f. 122/250 in moai. 32a.
117. Worker chops forest outside of 1TON's BFC. New citizen to fish.
3 10/26f. 128/250h. 31a.
118. Worker chops.
3 17/26f. 134/250h. 30a
119. Worker chop fin (+13h).
3 24/26f. 156/250h. 29a
120. 3 31/26f. 162/250h. 28a
121. Swap production to a worker. Citizens work Fish, fish, cow, plains forest.
4 5/28f. 17/60 into worker. 27a.
122. Whip work for 2 pop. Citizens to cows and fish.
2 5/24f. 96/60h into worker. 26h overflow. 36a.
123. Citizens to Cows and plains forest.
2 9/24f. 200/250h into worker. 35a
124. 2 13/24f. 206/250. 34a
125. 2 17/28f. 212/250. 33a
126. Worker starts chopping plains forest.
2 21/28f. 218/250.
127. 2 25/28f. 224/250
128. 2 29/28f. 254/250. Chop finishes

If we can drum up 2h somewhere we can speed up the build by a turn.

[regoarrarr]

Okay I whipped the worker. I'm a little unsure that taking the cows from CJ and not working one of our 2 fish (forcing CJ to work an unimproved plains river tile) is a good idea. I have it on the fish instead of the cows right now (and have ended turn) so if you see this anytime soon adn want to log in and change it, go for it

[pindicator]

Well, this is the plan for fastest Moai. I wasn't taking account other things (like needing commerce). I was going to write how we could delay the whip cycles into size 6 -> 4 and work the fish first... but then I remembered our happy cap is shot so it's not like food is doing us all that much good in these cities. We could slow Moai down, either by leaving the cows for CJ, or growing on fish.

Do you think that early Moai is worth the trade off? That wasn't part of the problem you gave me, teach

[regoarrarr]

So..... all your Moai plans failed to remember that we're IND, so we get 50% on building the dang thing

We currently have 82/250 and 25 overflow hammers plus 3 regular hammers (I'm working the cows currently), so 28 + 50% for IND and 25% for OR, or 49 total, which will give us 131/250 at the end of the turn.

[regoarrarr]

Random odds and ends:

* I triple whipped the temple in More Cowbell, dropping us down to a magnificent 8 (count them 8) gold per turn at max tax

* I begged Nakor's spare wine off of him. Doubt he accepts but who knows...

* (Another) random spread - this turn to the new city of Hanukkah Song. We may get those cows after all Thanks to our free Stele we make 2.5 cpt to his 2. He'll still pop borders before us, so maybe he can go ahead and pasture it before we flip it, just like he's doing the reverse to us with the fish (down to 61% Ethiopian)

[pindicator]

So..... all your Moai plans failed to remember that we're IND, so we get 50% on building the dang thing

We currently have 82/250 and 25 overflow hammers plus 3 regular hammers (I'm working the cows currently), so 28 + 50% for IND and 25% for OR, or 49 total, which will give us 131/250 at the end of the turn.

What, we get 2 traits this game!!??

wow, that's a pretty big oversight on my part. I guess I should try one more time

[regoarrarr]

We're at 23/24 , and like I said we have 28/49 going into it this turn (though we can change if we log in - right now we're working the cows and the fish).

Also the worker (Jon Lovitz) that was just whipped this turn I set to chopping the forest that is in the BFC (Fred Armisen will start his chop next turn).

It woudl be great if our next whip coudl be a lighthouse rather than another worker.

[pindicator]

Revised plan, taking into account...

1) We're IND!
2) You don't want to go all-out for Moai :neenernee

115. Whip the worker, citizens on the cow and fish. Worker roads.
End of turn: Size 2 23/24f. 82/250h in moai. 97/60 in worker. 25h overflow. 33 turns of anger.
116. Citizens on cow & fish.(OR gained). Worker fin road
2 31/24f. 131/250 in moai. 32a. 7 vs 6
117. Worker chops forest outside of 1TON's BFC. New citizen to fish.
3 18/26f. 136/250h. 31a. 7 vs 7
118. Worker chops.
3 29/26f. 141/250h. 30a. 7 vs 6
119. Worker chop fin (+13h). New citizen to plains forest
4 13/28f. 172/250h. 29a. 7 vs 7
120. Swap to worker. Citizens work Fish, fish, cow, plains forest. Chop plains forest (t1/3)
4 13/28f. 16/60h worker. 28a.
121. Whip worker for 2 pop. Citizens to cow & fish. Chop plains forest (t2/3)
2 13/24f. 95/60h. 25h overflow. 37a.
122. Both citizens to fishes Chop fin on plains forest (+20h)
2 22/24f. 252/250h


We can exchange cow for fish on t121 and still get the end date.


Edit: X-post. Will see if I can fit in a lighthouse. (Well, I can but lighthouse is only going to slow down the build time. I think it'd be better to slow build or whip the lighthouse after building Moai.)