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Meiz Wrote:I'll start by stating a fact. Selrahc the wolf was high on the chopping block, and there were two notable persons who tried to switch attention away from him. Pocketbeetle and Rowain.
Sorry but I did not try to switch votes from Selrahc. My vote was the first to cast and when I made my post asking for support to killl PB (on page 51) Selrahc had exactly 2 votes on him with Mardoc(4v) and Mr Nice Guy(3) beeing in the lead. Please check your facts.
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Rowain Wrote:Sorry but I did not try to switch votes from Selrahc. My vote was the first to cast and when I made my post asking for support to killl PB (on page 51) Selrahc had exactly 2 votes on him with Mardoc(4v) and Mr Nice Guy(3) beeing in the lead. Please check your facts.
Yes, in the beginning there were only two votes against Sehlrac (good you pointed it out), but at the end it's the same. Sehlrac was about to be lynched, and there were campaigns against you and PB.
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Meiz Wrote:I'll start by stating a fact. Selrahc the wolf was high on the chopping block, and there were two notable persons who tried to switch attention away from him. Pocketbeetle and Rowain. I think one of them is a likely wolf. And if that is the case, we can read a lot from the results (one is wolf, so other is likely innocent, and other way around + plenty of voting behavior to analyze).
I just want to highlight this real quick. The votes on pocketbeetle were there for a LONG time. That was not something that was suddenly an option the way the Rowain was. Choosing between Rowain and PB are very different because of this. Voting for Rowain is a hot new train that just started chugging. The PB train (much like the day before!) had been around for quite a while.
Compare Day 1 and Day : PB is up on the block both days. Both days he ahs a reasonable amount of votes that if enough people swung could get killed. On both days there was some competition. Day 1, MJW and myself, Day 2 Novice and Selrahc. The patterns mirror themselves as the votes against me dissipated in Day 1 and turned into a huge swing towards cull. The same thing happened here on Day 2. The novice votes dissipated and a huge swing began on Rowain. What was the single constant in these two days? pocketbeetle was on the block and in danger.
Thats just the facts people the same scenario worked out on both days and PB was the constant. He was also the constant beneficiary. Can you dispute this?
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@ Meiz - I think it's a fallacy to lynch PB or Rowain and be able to declare the other guy is a villager/wolf based on the result. PB is a wonderful lightening rod, because people vote for him, including myself, and then bounce off for all sorts of reasons.
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At the time before PB's post PB was leading with 7 votes Selrahc followed by 6 and novice by 5. Now tell me why didn't Selrahc switch against PB? It would have sealed the deal on him. No he waited until PB made his post attacking me
Now lets have a look who jumped on the BW, more precisly who made the BW, against me. Who worked with together with Selrahc? you, zakalwe, Serdoa and look who is here already trying to discredit me? It is you, zakalwe and Serdoa. What a strange coincidence.
In all honesty I doubt that all 3 of you are wolves but I wonder.
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Bruindane Wrote:@ Meiz - I think it's a fallacy to lynch PB or Rowain and be able to declare the other guy is a villager/wolf based on the result. PB is a wonderful lightening rod, because people vote for him, including myself, and then bounce off for all sorts of reasons.
That's why I said "likely innocent". Might be that it's that just in my eyes
And yes, I do notice that there's a difference on how the votes where gathered against Rowain and PB. Sorry, I wasn't clear on that.
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Rowain Wrote:you, zakalwe, Serdoa and look who is here already trying to discredit me? It is you, zakalwe and Serdoa. What a strange coincidence.
In all honesty I doubt that all 3 of you are wolves but I wonder.
Not that strange, Meiz completely trusted Scooter in WW2...
Right now I highly suspect:
PB
Zakalwe
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Rowain Wrote:Now lets have a look who jumped on the BW, more precisly who made the BW, against me. Who worked with together with Selrahc? you, zakalwe, Serdoa and look who is here already trying to discredit me? It is you, zakalwe and Serdoa. What a strange coincidence.
In all honesty I doubt that all 3 of you are wolves but I wonder.
Just to explain my jump on the BW. I was voting against novice, but it was just based on my previous theory against him, and I had big doubts for it. After all, it was a simple line from novice, and I probably just overread it.
I was suspicious for Sehlrac and for you, and I saw an opportunity to switch my vote away from novice to another suspect of mine. You have probably noticed that I have no problems at throwing my vote against someone. I can always switch my vote later if needed. Sehlrac was leading, and I wanted someone else on the chopping block besides him. Someone other than novice.
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Meiz Wrote:wing my vote against someone. I can always switch my vote later if needed. Sehlrac was leading, and I wanted someone else on the chopping block besides him. Someone other than novice.
Someone like PB?
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Meiz Wrote:Sehlrac was leading, and I wanted someone else on the chopping block besides him. Someone other than novice. Wrong:
At the time of your switch PB was leading with 7 votes, Selrahc had 5 (novice has just switched from him) and your vote was the 3rd on me.
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